Puchpen things : dang ~

[Cauldron]

Hy,

I would give you all more info if I could. Thats the point )

The Puchpen 88 thing which seems to be a HEAT infantry gun judging by its AP values.

I just have never heard of this thing - which is pretty remarkable concidering I have read 80% of the WW2 books ever written.

Does someone know the rarity value of this thing, who thought of it, was it useful etc etc... I want the historey of the puchpen 88 in 5 paragraphs - you know the idea- WAR in 2 volumes hee hee...

I have also never figured out how the Germans won WW2 against KV-1's in 1941/42. It sure will be interesting to see how a Pz II kills a KV...

[Kanonier Reichmann]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Cauldron:

I have also never figured out how the Germans won WW2 against KV-1's in 1941/42. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Gee, and there I was thinking that the Germans lost World War II. DOUBLE DANG!

Regards

Jim R.

[Andreas]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Cauldron:

I just have never heard of this thing - which is pretty remarkable concidering I have read 80% of the WW2 books ever written.

I have also never figured out how the Germans won WW2 against KV-1's in 1941/42. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Does anyone else sense the contradiction inherent in these two paras?

[Fieldmarshall]

I suggest you consult the "German Secret weapons of WW II" The Germans wanted something lighter than a artillery peice, and pack a heavier punch than an AT Rifle, it was the predecesor to the Panzerchreck, and fired roughly the same shell...it was a rocket system, alot heavier than the Shreck and much more complicated and expensive, the Germans began phasing them out mid-war, but always had a surplus.

[ 09-19-2001: Message edited by: Fieldmarshall ]

[Kanonier Reichmann]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Germanboy:

Does anyone else sense the contradiction inherent in these two paras? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes, clearly the books he read did not mention the final outcome of the conflict.

Regards

Jim R.

[Chupacabra]

You've read 80% of all the books ever written on WWII?

I somehow doubt that one. Unless you're the mortal incarnation of some sort of thousand-vagina'd Hindu goddess, in which case I humbly apologize, please don't reincarnate me as a slug.

[Kingfish]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Chupacabra:

..Unless you're the mortal incarnation of some sort of thousand-vagina'd Hindu goddess..<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Wow, time for me to switch religons!

[Mark IV]

Perhaps it was 80% of each book written, as opposed to 80% of all the books. At any rate, with the invention of the ballpoint most of us have lost interest in puchpens altogether.

[M Hofbauer]

hey Mr Cauldron,

why the need to start another thread on this thing? Isn't it the Puppchen what you are referring to with your mysterious "Peschwar" reference in the other thread started by you?

btw, I didn't know 80% of WW II literature was revisionist. I'm shocked.

[ParaBellum]

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[Pascal DI FOLCO]

Cauldron, please just one question : are you serious ?

(Indirect approach) : who was the Soviet leader during WW ?

[Boff]

A search on Google turned up the following on the raketenwerfer 43 Puppchen:

http://www.qt.org/worldwar/weapons/germany/heer/raketen43.html

http://www.waffen-ss.com/equipment/small_arms/heavy_rocket_launcher.html

:cool:

[ 09-19-2001: Message edited by: Boff ]

[Slapdragon]

I find in my library 430 books on World War Two, and two filing cabinents of primary source material. The last article I wrote on logistics transportation in the US Army cited 40 books, only one of which I own. My LC look up under World War Two combining the various subheadings lists 23,658 books. A NARA file search, discarding those materials not bound, finds another 1870 books (many one offs and not ever printed).

I can say that I am truly impressed, because if we assume that the LC lookup found all the books in English (and if you know LC lookup, you know it did not) then I own 1.8 % of the books ever written in English on World War Two. For every one I own, I have read or referenced 10, so maybe in 25 years of study I have come up to the 20% mark. Doubtful since the LC is not the end all of book publication listings.

Now, if you have read 80%, I should be able to grab a book at random and ask a broad, easy to answer question, and you will get 8 in 10 correct. Nothing obscure now:

****Please Allow Cauldron to answer before you grogs jump in****

1) What was the name of the British Magician the worked in the desert campaigns as a camoflauge expert?

2) What was the name or number of the Brazillian Division which fought in Italy?

3) A series of major night actions off Guadalcanal lead to the complete tactical defeat of the US and Australian Navy guardian forces, but a strategic victory because landings were not compromised. Two of the battles were named after a small island near Guadalcanal. What is the name of these two battles?

4) What was the name of the First US Aviator to lead a bombing mission over Japan, and how did he get his planes there?

5) The largest tank battle in history occurred between the Russians and Germans. What was its name.

6) One fascist regime did not officially participate in WW2 on the side of the Germans, which one is it? (Bonus, what was the name of the unit it did allow to volunteer)?

7) Where did the first attempt to reinvade France land, and what was its effects?

8) In what battle was the heavy cruiser / pocket battleship Graf Spee sunk?

9) Which German city was bombed that caused horror even on the Allied side of the conflict, and spawned the book "Slaughterhouse Five".

10) What was the name of the collaborationist government of France and who was its leader. (Bonus -- who was the leader of Norway's collaborationist government and why was Denmark's government never considered collaborationist?)

Extra Credit: Who was the highest ranking German official to survive hostilities, and what happened to him?

[M Hofbauer]

easy there Slap. lets do first things first, and get the basics right, befiore we move on to more complicated stuff: right now Cauldron is still trying to work out exactly who won WW II.

btw: nitpick about your impressive calculation on ww2 literature: did you take into account the massive amount of non-english literature, and account for the fact that there are many personal memories and unit diaries which aren't often referred in major book lists? If not, mind you this then makes Cauldron's 80%-feat even more impressive.

[von shrad]

O.K Take it easy on the poor guy. I believe it was a figure of speach like;

'It's so good I could eat all of it' when in fact one more bite would make you puke.

We have all said things that we didn't exactly mean. I know I have. Take the other day when I was at the bar. I told my wife on the phone that I miss her and I wish I was at home. See, it's that simple.

von shrad

[Slapdragon]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by M Hofbauer:

easy there Slap. lets do first things first, and get the basics right, befiore we move on to more complicated stuff: right now Cauldron is still trying to work out exactly who won WW II.

btw: nitpick about your impressive calculation on ww2 literature: did you take into account the massive amount of non-english literature, and account for the fact that there are many personal memories and unit diaries which aren't often referred in major book lists? If not, mind you this then makes Cauldron's 80%-feat even more impressive.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hell no Hof, notice I specifically mentioned English books as a limitation, but I am sure that German either meets or exceeds the number of books in English. But my intentions are more benign. I know that Cauldron hasn't read much (hell -- my neice knows who won WW2, she is a 5 year old from Brazil) so I expected the grogs to step in after a few hours and answer my questions. Just for fun, and then I could post the next 20 which are truly stumpers, turning this thread into something educational and fun at the same time.

[Deuce]

Whoa there, take it easy. I’m pretty sure that 80% figure was an exaggeration. I mean what’s 80% of a cagillion? A whole darn lot at least

[Pascal DI FOLCO]

Slap, I'm not a big specialist, perhaps I've read 0.01 % of all WWII books, not more, but am sure I have the answers to 6 of your questions...

That's too easy ! If I've read even 0.02% of the books I would have 10/10 !

[Slapdragon]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Pascal DI FOLCO:

Slap, I'm not a big specialist, perhaps I've read 0.01 % of all WWII books, not more, but am sure I have the answers to 6 of your questions...

That's too easy ! If I've read even 0.02% of the books I would have 10/10 !<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hell yes, that was my easy set. Why don't you give it a shot and see what you get, then I will post the toughies.

I bet you get the question about the facist country.

[Andrew H.]

I thought the largest tank battle in history occurred between the US and Iraq.

Also, does "France land" mean the French mainland or "French land."

[New Age Santa]

wtf, guys why are you skewering him?? It was probably something called a "FIGURE OF SPEECH" when he said the 80% thing. He really didn't read 80% but he has read alot.

And I thought the figure of speech was a common occurence in the English language.

What I think he meant was how were the Germans were very succesful early on in the war with what in many cases was inferior weaponry.

[MrSpkr]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by New Age Santa:

wtf, guys why are you skewering him??<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Just a guess, but maybe because his posts seem smug and arrogant?

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>It was probably something called a "FIGURE OF SPEECH" when he said the 80% thing. He really didn't read 80% but he has read alot.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

His exact words are:

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>I just have never heard of this thing - which is pretty remarkable concidering I have read 80% of the WW2 books ever written.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

He doesn't leave much room for latitude. He does nto say 'about 80%' or 'around 80%' or even 'what feels like 80%' but rather 'I have read 80%'.

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>And I thought the figure of speech was a common occurence in the English language.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not in that context.

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>What I think he meant was how were the Germans were very succesful early on in the war with what in many cases was inferior weaponry.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Probably, but again, the tenor of his posts and his use of bolding to emphasize apparently struck some folks as a bit smug.

[Specterx]

Either all that or he speaks/writes English as a second language.

Lay off him FFS.

[von shrad]

ummmm...now you have my attention but what in hell does FFS mean?

von shrad

[Andreas]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by von shrad:

ummmm...now you have my attention but what in hell does FFS mean?

von shrad<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

15 months in the German army gave me an uncanny ability to decipher obscure acronyms

Fer Feck's Sake.