Molotov Posted July 30, 2001 Share Posted July 30, 2001 will this awsome vehicle be included in CMBB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurtz Posted July 30, 2001 Share Posted July 30, 2001 Nice vehicle, except for the fact that it only carries 12 rounds for the gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pzman Posted July 30, 2001 Share Posted July 30, 2001 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Molotov: will this awsome vehicle be included in CMBB? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> There is no way for us to know. BTS has not given us a vehical list, and they most likely wont for some time yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soddball Posted July 30, 2001 Share Posted July 30, 2001 What is it? Do you have any links/pics/development info for us notgrogs to understand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Leader Posted July 30, 2001 Share Posted July 30, 2001 Basically like a puma only with a short barrelled 75, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PawBroon Posted July 30, 2001 Share Posted July 30, 2001 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Panzer Leader: Basically like a puma only with a short barrelled 75, right?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Not too short: Nice one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Leader Posted July 30, 2001 Share Posted July 30, 2001 Sorry, I got it mixed up with the 234/2. Yeah it has a long 50mm I think. In fact, Pawbroon, I just looked at that exact picture! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soddball Posted July 30, 2001 Share Posted July 30, 2001 Smart. Is that a 50mm AT gun? Where was this vehicle used? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PawBroon Posted July 30, 2001 Share Posted July 30, 2001 It's a PaK40 75L46 or something. Some 90 were produced and they are NOT in CMBO. Can't we revive the Pro Allies Bias Thread and lynch BTS with it while more generally being rude and ungrateful? Please? Huuh?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soddball Posted July 30, 2001 Share Posted July 30, 2001 90? Sheeite. Hardly overwhelming numbers on the battlefield. Still, the hull looks similar to the armoured cars like the Puma so it'd be easy to include - although I'd rather see the Centurion included - but that's just me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molotov Posted July 31, 2001 Author Share Posted July 31, 2001 Wow it had only 12 rounds!! But this would be a really fun vehicle to use in CM its like a highly mobile 75 Pak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Harrison Posted July 31, 2001 Share Posted July 31, 2001 those suckers sure were fun in Adv Squad leader, you could almost always put one of those 12 rounds up some tanks butt! and if it were decided only on looks, i think it looks great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt Canuck Posted July 31, 2001 Share Posted July 31, 2001 it would be nice to see these,...But since only 89 were built between Dec 44 and March 45, they would be really quite rare. OBTW it did house the 7.5cm Pak40 L/46. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmead Posted July 31, 2001 Share Posted July 31, 2001 As I recall from a previous thread, this vehicle will not be in CMBB. There has been alot of somewhat negative pushback on the Puma being included given its also restricted production numbers and the tendency to have them included in many QBs. The short barreled version is already in CMBO. 109 Gustav posted 04-14-2001 02:49 PM Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â according to AFV Interiors http://www.kithobbyist.com/AFVInteriors/234/234a.html only 89 Sd.Kfz. 234/4 were built, and many didn't reach the troops by the end of the cease fire. It would be nice to see, though. Mattias posted 04-08-2001 04:15 AM Â Â Â The Puma is in because it was one of the very first vehicles BTS made. Later on in the design process time became more of a factor and priorities had to be made. Thus some vehicles that would have been just as qualified as the Puma, by numbers deployed, was left out. Among those the 234/4. And that particular one would no doubt have been found pretty far down the list in any event. redwolf posted 05-30-2001 05:30 PM Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â SdKfz 234/1: 200 SdKfz 234/2: 101 SdKfz 234/3: 88 SdKfz 234/4: 89 This link is to a short interchange about the 251/22 halftrack with the same 75mm cannon. Although not a lock on the 234/4 not making it, I doubt it will. http://www.battlefront.com/cgi-bin/bbs/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=015418 [ 07-30-2001: Message edited by: kmead because he cannot typr for shtute] [ 07-30-2001: Message edited by: kmead ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Eyes Posted July 31, 2001 Share Posted July 31, 2001 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by kmead: ...There has been alot of somewhat negative psuback on the Puma being included given its also restructed production numbers and the tendency to have them included in many QBs...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> This problem will be alleviated by the inclusion of an optional rarity factor in CMBB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molotov Posted July 31, 2001 Author Share Posted July 31, 2001 Damn that sux that it wont be included. I have wanted to use this vehichle for a long time. Oh well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molotov Posted July 31, 2001 Author Share Posted July 31, 2001 Would it be possible to make a mod or are tanks and vehicles hard coded in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offtaskagain Posted July 31, 2001 Share Posted July 31, 2001 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Molotov: Would it be possible to make a mod or are tanks and vehicles hard coded in?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> They most definitely are. BTS really doesn't want people screwing around with the game mechanics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grunto IV Posted July 31, 2001 Share Posted July 31, 2001 i read somewhere that the long 75 on this vehicle had a tendency to warp the chassis when fired. andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanir Ausf B Posted July 31, 2001 Share Posted July 31, 2001 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Grunto IV: i read somewhere that the long 75 on this vehicle had a tendency to warp the chassis when fired.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> I know I've read the same thing, but I'll be damned if I can remember where. Apparently the gun just had too much recoil for it to handle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freak Posted July 31, 2001 Share Posted July 31, 2001 looks like a fun vehicle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanonier Reichmann Posted July 31, 2001 Share Posted July 31, 2001 Should we start petitioning BTS to include this vehicle? Should we...huh...should we? Regards Jim R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freak Posted July 31, 2001 Share Posted July 31, 2001 I am for it. A grimmace falls upon my face at the thought of toasting T-34's form a quick flank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximus Posted July 31, 2001 Share Posted July 31, 2001 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Molotov: Would it be possible to make a mod or are tanks and vehicles hard coded in?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> All 3D models and data are compiled, or as we say here "hard-coded", into the executable. This somewhat optimizes the coding. Because the models themselves have several real-color bitmaps per model unlike some games that have the entire model's texture compiled into one or two 256-color optimized bitmaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molotov Posted July 31, 2001 Author Share Posted July 31, 2001 So what you are trying to say Maximus is that this vehicle WILL be included in CMBB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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