Azuth Posted December 13, 2000 Share Posted December 13, 2000 You must have seen this by now, but if you haven't then check it out. Its a massively multiplayer WWII game. www.wwiionline.com If you're into CM then I think it will be hard not to like WWII online. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vergeltungswaffe Posted December 14, 2000 Share Posted December 14, 2000 It'll never get off the ground, but if it does, you'll have 80% pilots, 19% tankers, and 1% infantry (the brave and witless). Don't hold your breath for this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russellmz Posted December 14, 2000 Share Posted December 14, 2000 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Vergeltungswaffe: It'll never get off the ground, but if it does, you'll have 80% pilots, 19% tankers, and 1% infantry (the brave and witless). Don't hold your breath for this one.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> but i wanna be quartermaster! (i think they actually do model that...) ------------------ russellmz, Self-Proclaimed Keeper for Life of the Sacred Unofficial FAQ. "They had their chance- they have not lead!" - GW Bush "They had mechanical pencils- they have not...lead?" - Jon Stewart on The Daily Show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terence Posted December 14, 2000 Share Posted December 14, 2000 I think they have the navy too. Can you imagine? "Ill be the u boats and you and fred can be the convoy." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloo-home Posted December 14, 2000 Share Posted December 14, 2000 Care to make a wager on that, Vergeltungswaffe? Don't count the infantry out. I work at Cornered Rat Software (which has several CM players, btw). We certainly hope that it is hard for CM players not to like it. -bloo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Posted December 14, 2000 Share Posted December 14, 2000 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Vergeltungswaffe: It'll never get off the ground, but if it does, you'll have 80% pilots, 19% tankers, and 1% infantry (the brave and witless). Don't hold your breath for this one.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Actually, it's more like 50% infantry, 20% tankers, with another 20 to pilots and 10 to navy It seems like the pilots are the big majority, but that's because the Warbirds community (where the founding team of CRS comes from) has come on en masse. Rest assured, gentlemen, it will be an AWESOME event ------------------ -Rebel out!- "The only thing more accurate then incoming enemy fire is incoming friendly fire" -Murphy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro Posted December 14, 2000 Share Posted December 14, 2000 Any openings for file clerks, cooks or staff drivers? I want to be the little guy that drives around Patton and sucks his ass. Pedro ------------------ " the recruits are salty,they are ready to eat their own guts and ask for seconds." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Duke Posted December 14, 2000 Share Posted December 14, 2000 Wow! I hope this works out for "the Rats". I would like to checkout a demo with online play. Sounds fun. As long as I get to command a tank company, count me in! ------------------ One shot...One Kill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermopylae Posted December 14, 2000 Share Posted December 14, 2000 I think entire armies may not be a great idea...I can't see a few hundred thousand people signing up... Maybe if you fought it at the battalion level...you still need 800 or more players online for relatively battered battalions on each side, and thats only over a square kilometer. And let me tell you, people aren't going to be pleased that there's only 40-50 tank positions available (meaning gunners, drivers, commanders, loaders, assitant drivers,a nd less if you leave the two less glamorous ones out), and only 5-10 pilots... But lets assume you can feasibly get this level if you prepare a week or so for the battles so everyone has notice, a strategic level of a brigade might work. And you could have quick "pick-up" games of around the platoon size...even if the massive campaign system doens't work, this would still be really fun..of course, the navy and the airforce aren't going to be pleased. And I would like to say, that despite my fears, i'm truly looking forward to this and hoping it works out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermopylae Posted December 14, 2000 Share Posted December 14, 2000 Oh, and I really look forward to being an ifantryman...so you'll all have some one to run over/machinegun/test direct HE on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vergeltungswaffe Posted December 14, 2000 Share Posted December 14, 2000 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Bloo-home: Care to make a wager on that, Vergeltungswaffe? Don't count the infantry out. I work at Cornered Rat Software (which has several CM players, btw). We certainly hope that it is hard for CM players not to like it. -bloo <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> I would be happy to make you a wager on it. I wish you all the best of luck and success, it would be wonderful if it worked, but I am confident that it doesn't have a prayer. And to Rebel, I stand by my guesstimates. No way on God's green earth that half of the people you could get to play this game would play as infantry (read: targets). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subvet Posted December 14, 2000 Share Posted December 14, 2000 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Vergeltungswaffe: It'll never get off the ground, but if it does, you'll have 80% pilots, 19% tankers, and 1% infantry (the brave and witless). Don't hold your breath for this one.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> I think you're wrong there. Even if you're correct though, how would that prevent it from being a good game? Personally I would like to play on a U-boat, but that wouldn't figure into the 0% you think would play in the navy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitty Posted December 14, 2000 Share Posted December 14, 2000 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Azuth: You must have seen this by now, but if you haven't then check it out. Its a massively multiplayer WWII game. www.wwiionline.com If you're into CM then I think it will be hard not to like WWII online.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> HA! Check it out if you haven't seen it for the last 6 years as "soon to be released" and if you can afford the $60-$70 to buy it off the shelf then whatever it is to play it online per month after that. Go back and pleasure yourself w/screenshots. K ------------------ ICQ 8273286 http://www.fluffkitty.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mace Posted December 14, 2000 Share Posted December 14, 2000 What I want to know is how Command & Control is going to be modelled? I can see everyone running around doing their own thing, or giving orders to one another that are never obeyed! I think I'll stick to CMBO! Mace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echo Posted December 14, 2000 Share Posted December 14, 2000 I don't "pay to play" anything. Coin ops went out a long time ago. I wish they would quit trying to install a quarter slot on my machine. ------------------ As I walk through the Valley of Death, I will fear nothing, for I am the meanest mother*#*#** in the valley. (George S. Patton) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeadams Posted December 14, 2000 Share Posted December 14, 2000 Since it is Windows only, it won't get any of the Mac CMM addicts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefan Fredriksson Posted December 14, 2000 Share Posted December 14, 2000 The feeling I get is that this has "been coming" for a long, long time. So long that my early interest has faded into oblivion, I simply get the feeling that it isn't gonna come at all. But - *if* it does come to life one day, it certainly looks promising. I'll give it to the guys that they are ambitious, if nothing else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Posted December 14, 2000 Share Posted December 14, 2000 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by mikeadams: Since it is Windows only, it won't get any of the Mac CMM addicts<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Ummmmm, it's Mac, too, buddy ------------------ -Rebel out!- "The only thing more accurate then incoming enemy fire is incoming friendly fire" -Murphy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iggi Posted December 14, 2000 Share Posted December 14, 2000 An errie silence has fallen over the city. Our squad has been cut off from the company. We are holed up in the basement of a burnt out factory. Temperature has dropped to -20 degrees. There's six of us left. That Russian tank came out from nowhere. Bloody almost cut our unit apart. I passed the order to count ammo and redistribute. We're lucky we still have the mg42. A distance growl permiates the horizon. The battle is not over yet. "Saddle up boys, lets rock and roll". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingfish Posted December 14, 2000 Share Posted December 14, 2000 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Pedro: I want to be the little guy that drives around Patton and sucks his ass. Pedro <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Well, I don't think there will be much in the way of competition for this slot, so you'll have no problems locking it up ------------------ Frag Hanoi Jane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Croda Posted December 14, 2000 Share Posted December 14, 2000 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by iggi: An errie silence has fallen over the city. Our squad has been cut off from the company. We are holed up in the basement of a burnt out factory. Temperature has dropped to -20 degrees. There's six of us left. That Russian tank came out from nowhere. Bloody almost cut our unit apart. I passed the order to count ammo and redistribute. We're lucky we still have the mg42. A distance growl permiates the horizon. The battle is not over yet. "Saddle up boys, lets rock and roll". <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Oops, sorry to leave you guys hanging, but I need to get to bed. Work tommorrow. Looks like there's just 5 of you to take on that tank. But you have the MG42! You can't leave now! **Joe the MG 42 Guy has disconnected** DOH!!! ------------------ WARNING! WARNING! WARNING! WARNING! - THIS SIG FILE BELONGS TO A COMPLETE FOO. MR T WOULDN'T BE SO KIND AS TO WRINKLE AN EYEBROW AT THIS UNFORTUNATE BEING. PLEASE OFFER HIS PARENTS AND COHABITANTS ALL SYMPATHY POSSIBLE. MAY BE CONTAGIOUS. CONTAINS ARTIFICIAL SWEETNER, INTELLIGENCE AND WIT. STAND WELL CLEAR AND LIGHT WICK. BY ORDER PETERNZ Damn Croda. That is one funny sig!!! must suck to be you - Hiram Sedai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Capt Posted December 14, 2000 Share Posted December 14, 2000 I would like to cast a vote for "pipe dream". A real large scale military opration takes weeks of planning and thousands of well trained men to (hopefully) carry it off. History has shown us that 9 times out of ten the operation still reverts to chaos when the two opposing sides collide. The command and control factor in this game is going to be immpossible. Why? Go and play Counter-Strike or another co-op online multi-player game and see how easy it is to try and coord the actions of 10 people. Now try and get 500 (per side) working together at the same time. I won't even get into the little pre-teen A##Holes who will have nothing better to do than to figure out how to cheat/TK or generally screw things up. Last point, scope. The scope of area, firepower and strategic/operational/tactical employment of everything proposed in this game is ridiculously large. For example, a battleship, a fighter and a GI, c'mon! You shouldn't use these words in the same sentence let alone blend their employment into one game. The scope of employment is totally out of whack. If I could make a constructive suggestion to the folks at Cornered Rat, narrow your scope to something in line with CM. A battalion operation (or even Bde) would provide more than enough interest for 500 people and could be done with some semblance of realistic scope...plus the CO could have anybody who wants to be a prick shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iggi Posted December 14, 2000 Share Posted December 14, 2000 No No No doh, the tank got them in the building. They only decided to leave later, when it was safe PS Give 40 of your rounds to the machinegunner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cav-Scout Posted December 14, 2000 Share Posted December 14, 2000 Take this for what its worth, since I post here only occasionally (too busy playing CMBO), but all the comments about this game never getting off the ground seem out of place coming from a group that helped an "independent" game succeed. From what I can tell about the game, their hoping to draw from all areas of online gaming..the FPS people for infantry, the WB'ers for pilots, and the like. Their trying to pull off what others have always dreamed of doing...this is a GOOD THING for us. See, when people decide to go out on their own, try something a little different than the norm, such as the guys here at Battlefront, then we reap the benefits. As of now, I believe they have 5,000 people signed up for the closed beta, which is going to get going in Jan/Feb of 2001..with a target release date of spring 2001. Of course, you could just check out their site and get all the info you desire, or you could just call it a "pipe dream" and forget about it...I'm looking forward to it, and I have no doubts as to whether it will get going or not. Besides, I have to have something to do while I wait for my turns to get back to me. One last thing...We all "pay to play"...last time I checked BTS asked me, very nicely, to pay for this game, which I did. I understand that asking a group of guys to dedicate 2 years of their life to bring together another revolutionary game, then give to us for free, isn't asking much at all...(add sarcasm for extra flavor) Cav Scout "If you ain't Cav...you ain't" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Capt Posted December 14, 2000 Share Posted December 14, 2000 Cav-Scout makes a good point but I am afraid the reverse is true. A truly poor outing will be a black mark on what many already call a "fringe community". Hurting development in the long run I encourage and will always cheer for the under-dog but when the entire concept is flawed from the "get go", you are setting the stage for failure, hence "pipe dream". I did look at the website (where do you think I came up with my points?). The concept is unrealistic and flawed. I think a multi-player wargame is an excellent idea but trying to encompass and blend such a ridiculous scope is naive in the extreme and will hurt the credibility of other developers trying to break into the mainstream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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