Cav-Scout

As to whether or not its gamey...I would think that late in the war, especially from the german side, they threw together whatever forces they could muster for defense. Also, since there is a scenerio or two, such as "Drive to Caratean"(sp), with the game, then its legit to me to mix forces. I think the recon issue is totally seperate...using particular forces in they weren't usually used is a different topic all together...IMO Cav Scout "If you ain't Cav...you ain't"

Bottom line guys..if you don't think it'll fly, then don't check it out. 1) To judge a game based on a few screen shots of a closed early-mid beta session is absurd. Its a BLOODY HUGE map, to which no few screen shots can do justice...and its not done yet. 2) To suggest its fluff, with no knowledge of how they are modeling the actual vehicles/planes is also absurd. Do you have inside info on just how the physics of the game will work? This game is coming to us from the guys who brought you WARBIRDS....hardly fluff I think. I would expect them to model the armor and planes as realistically, if not more, than CM does. 3) realistic military simulation? Immersion? So, having my Puma sniped repeatedly by a 60mm mortar is realistic? Face it guys, no game will 'immerse" you entirely and let you feel what it was like then..hence the "game" aspect of it. You want absolute realism, join the Marines. 4) How many people can you possibly go up against on DELTA FORCE, or F22? there is a reason why they charge..its a MASSIVELY MULTI-PLAYER game, not something you can throw up a server for and handle 50 people. That's why you don't pay to play stuff like Diablo, F22, and Delta Force. You can play those games alone..WWIIonline just isn't the same..apples and oranges. 5) Won't survive a monthly fee? Just as Air Warrior, WarBirds, and others haven't eh? Some of the FPS, Tank Sim, and others will stay..some won't. Do you also think these guys are new to this? They will price the game so as to insure they survive, and not run themselves out of the market. Who knows..maybe they'll count on having many more people, and thereby charging less than any other Online game, also drawing people for the savings in cost alone...won't know till it happens, but it doesn't do any good to cry over milk that hasn't been spilled yet. Look back a while, when CM was in its infancy, and remember how some people thought, " An independent game company? surviving on sales by word of mouth and such? a wargame no less?" Thank goodness the guys who produced this game didn't listen. They had a goal, and they stuck to it. I imagine the same thing is going on with these guys...I wouldn't bet against. After all, they've already proven themselves once with WarBirds. Lastly, my examples are not intended to pick on anyone, or embarrass anyone, and in no way am I taking away from CM. The game is the goods..best game out there. Lets just give others some encouragement, and hope they pull off what they set out to do..cause if they do, WWIIonline is going to be the real deal, which can only add to the wargaming community as a whole, and that's good by me. Cav-Scout "If you ain't Cav...you ain't"

Take this for what its worth, since I post here only occasionally (too busy playing CMBO), but all the comments about this game never getting off the ground seem out of place coming from a group that helped an "independent" game succeed. From what I can tell about the game, their hoping to draw from all areas of online gaming..the FPS people for infantry, the WB'ers for pilots, and the like. Their trying to pull off what others have always dreamed of doing...this is a GOOD THING for us. See, when people decide to go out on their own, try something a little different than the norm, such as the guys here at Battlefront, then we reap the benefits. As of now, I believe they have 5,000 people signed up for the closed beta, which is going to get going in Jan/Feb of 2001..with a target release date of spring 2001. Of course, you could just check out their site and get all the info you desire, or you could just call it a "pipe dream" and forget about it...I'm looking forward to it, and I have no doubts as to whether it will get going or not. Besides, I have to have something to do while I wait for my turns to get back to me. One last thing...We all "pay to play"...last time I checked BTS asked me, very nicely, to pay for this game, which I did. I understand that asking a group of guys to dedicate 2 years of their life to bring together another revolutionary game, then give to us for free, isn't asking much at all...(add sarcasm for extra flavor) Cav Scout "If you ain't Cav...you ain't"

Second Raze's comment about free throws. Lets through in a couple of guys firing shots at the free thrower, and then see how he does Having never been in combat, I can't imagine staring down the barrel of a tank gun at 150 meters and remaining calm and collected, even if it is a pitiful 75mm pea shooter. I'm experiencing alot of bad luck with my armor lately, but that just means when it turns around, I'm gonna be knockin gguys out at etreme range, using my coax to pick off each crew member, knock the tracks off, and maybe even hit and detonate a discarded shell nearby, blowing the tank into the air....it could happen!!

Wow..takes me back to the days when a friend of mine in the mortar plt. showed me "Computer Ambush" on his C64. I was blown away, and spent many a morning trying to stay awake for first formation <g> It was the beginning of my computer gaming experience. Thanks for making me feel old gents

Having already thank anyone in advance for their response, I just wanted to thank you guys again for the speedy and informative answers. All a big help guys..much appreciated. Oh, and always happy to stir up memories of the Cav Cav-Scout "If you ain't Cav...you ain't"

Gentlemen, since I'm new to the whole patch thingymajig, does anyone know if games in progress (using v1.05) will still be playable if someone has installed the v1.1 patch, and his opponent has not. Man I hope so, cause I have a few game going and would hate to have to suspend them till everyone is up to speed. Thanks in advance for any help... Cav-Scout "If you aint Cav...you aint"