GhostRider3/3 Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 I know this has been discussed a bunch of times but had a question. Could the Battlefront Team just add a 1941-1942(late) TOE to the game as a paid patch update if you wanted it? I mean people like me would love to make and design scenarios. I don't think anyone would even care if we got scenarios just as long as we could get the TOE for old CMAK. The tiles are already there, maybe just a toggle between Italy and Africa for some unique tile buildings and such but If I could I would love to see it again. Starting Playing CMAK back when I was in my early 30's.... lol would love to do it before my 60's. You all do a damn good job and as consumers, obviously we always are wanting. Loyal Customer/Semper Fi. James. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vergeltungswaffe Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 I've wanted CMx2 40-41 in the desert more than anything else. They're just not going to put in the time and effort to create it since Steve says sales wouldn't justify it. He certainly knows better than I do, but I'll keep hoping and dreaming of the day when I can once again enjoy the thrill of Crap Tanks™ in the desert blazing away at ludicrous distances and missing constantly. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacillator Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 1 hour ago, Vergeltungswaffe said: Steve says sales wouldn't justify it There must be at least a dozen who have previously said they would buy it . Me being one. If they adopted your trademarked name, who could resist it? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centurian52 Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 I'm still hopeful that they'll get around to it. I think a careful reading of what Steve means whenever he says that sales wouldn't justify doing early-war content suggests that sales wouldn't justify doing early-war content right now. They can't do it in one big leap because there is too much new equipment that has to be modeled. But he has also implied many times that it is something they might be interested in doing someday. He openly said in the 2024 part 1 thread that they think France 1940 would be a great game to make, there's just too much new equipment for them to do it right now. He has said before that the only realistic way to do early-war would be to move back incrementally (and he hinted that 1943/44 eastern front might be on the table). The barrier seems to be the sheer amount of new formations and equipment that needs to be done, which would require a greater investment in time and money than they would be likely to get back in sales. But it is a barrier that can be chipped away at by moving the clock back in increments rather than in one great leap backwards. What it all points to for me is that early-war, including North Africa, is probably still on the table. But it's a long way off, and no promises can be made at this point. They focused on doing the late-war first since that was clearly more profitable than early-war. Now that the late-war is finished it seems only logical that they're probably about ready to start inching the clock back. And pushing the clock back just one increment more from where we left off in the Mediterranean theater gets us into the fighting in Tunisia in 1943, which was the last campaign fought in North Africa. But I'm guessing at this point that a Tunisia 1943 game is still quite a few years away, seeing as other projects that shall not be named are probably going to be taking priority for a while. So no, I don't think there will be any North Africa content in the short term (next few years at least). But I don't recall Steve ever saying never. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Canadian Cat Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 I would really like it too. We seem so close with Fortress Italy. Would require the time pushed back a little more and some new equipment I suppose but not a lot. There would be some buildings that would need to be changed / added plus all the usual TO&E work plus some scenarios. I would love to have such a game. In CM1 AK was my favourite. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vergeltungswaffe Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 4 hours ago, Vacillator said: There must be at least a dozen who have previously said they would buy it . Me being one. If they adopted your trademarked name, who could resist it? I'm telling you, Crap Tanks in the Desert would outsell Space Lobsters by an order of magnitude! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erwin Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 In terms of economy of scale, producing the units for 1939-41 would enable several products: Early War in Europe, Poland '39. And of course North Africa/Afrika Korps. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymous_Jonze Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 I want North Africa more than any other theater. Instant buy for me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostRider3/3 Posted March 1 Author Share Posted March 1 True, I also think that there is a plethora of people that would enjoy the challenge difficulties of early war, especially with the German Forces as their tanks were... say on Par with Allied tanks, not a real advantage, and the Soviets would definitely be a major challenge, from AT rifles to the obvious T-34, and KV tanks. All in all I think the early war is more exciting as far as historical battles and just pure challenge. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant Ash Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 The Matilda mk2, 'queen of the desert', pretty much the early wars equilivant of the tiger at least in terms of its armour, still had a crap gun though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazing 88's Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 I'll add my sig to the conversation. It says it all for me! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gumboots Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 For several years now I've hoped that CMx3 will be used to do early war. Med Theatre seems most likely as they could have a module for the US forces in the 'later' years. Though still very unlikely. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostRider3/3 Posted March 2 Author Share Posted March 2 Honestly, at least for the Mediterranean Theatre, I just wish we got the TOE's. No scenarios or campaigns, we can make those ourselves. LOL I just wan the ability to use the editor to create 41-42 (Late) Scenarios where I feel its most competitive on both sides. Damn challenging for PVP as well. PBEM. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fry30 Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 On 2/29/2024 at 10:42 AM, Vergeltungswaffe said: I'll keep hoping and dreaming of the day when I can once again enjoy the thrill of Crap Tanks™ in the desert blazing away at ludicrous distances and missing constantly. You really nailed it right there. It makes me miss guys like Kholenkau (sp) who were doing really exciting things with 3d models (not to take away from other guys doing this sort of thing.) His France 1940 mod (which I'm not really sure I ever installed correctly) was pretty damned neat. It's not quite the type of modability available on a game like Close Combat, but the mods are starting to get pretty close. Obviously not the same thing but I believe its the closest we'll get until CMx3 rolls out (really hope they move in a more "modular" direction as far as available troops go). Like Ghost is saying above about the TOE's. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vergeltungswaffe Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 4 hours ago, fry30 said: You really nailed it right there. It makes me miss guys like Kholenkau (sp) who were doing really exciting things with 3d models (not to take away from other guys doing this sort of thing.) His France 1940 mod (which I'm not really sure I ever installed correctly) was pretty damned neat. It's not quite the type of modability available on a game like Close Combat, but the mods are starting to get pretty close. Obviously not the same thing but I believe its the closest we'll get until CMx3 rolls out (really hope they move in a more "modular" direction as far as available troops go). Like Ghost is saying above about the TOE's. Absolutely. Steve has made some interesting veiled comments in the announcement thread, so I will hold out hope that we can see the desert again. More people and more resources means more theaters, since they don't have to prioritize so incredibly tightly going forward. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostRider3/3 Posted August 30 Author Share Posted August 30 30 minutes ago, Vergeltungswaffe said: Absolutely. Steve has made some interesting veiled comments in the announcement thread, so I will hold out hope that we can see the desert again. More people and more resources means more theaters, since they don't have to prioritize so incredibly tightly going forward. Very true. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PEB14 Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 Will we ever get the CM-FI battleback promised 18 months ago?! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant Ash Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 CMAK 2.0 running on the CM3 engine.... take my money immediately! With the change in ownership I guess anything now becomes possible, though a modern war title is the likeliest first outing for the CM3 engine, after that who knows. I re bought CMAK (and Barbarossa to Berlin) on GOG last year for a 'walk down memory lane' and if you can put up with the abstracted infantry squads and dated graphics you can still get an enjoyable experience from these titles (all for the price of a pint of best). 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aragorn2002 Posted Tuesday at 05:12 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 05:12 PM CMAK 2.0, yes, definitely on top of my list, together with Stalingrad/Charkow 1942/1943. And period between Kursk and Bagration also deserves more attention. Who knows, perhaps Slitherine can deliver and we are heading for golden times. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacillator Posted Tuesday at 06:51 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 06:51 PM 1 hour ago, Aragorn2002 said: Kursk I'd kinda like this, particularly in the light of more modern examination of what actually happened. And the lead up to it, and all the way back to Barbarossa. We can dream... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aragorn2002 Posted Tuesday at 07:05 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 07:05 PM 11 minutes ago, Vacillator said: I'd kinda like this, particularly in the light of more modern examination of what actually happened. And the lead up to it, and all the way back to Barbarossa. We can dream... Well, I have some pretty spectacular announcements are coming our way this year. Hopefully we will all be blown away by it, no matter what we're hoping for. Imagine @GeorgeMC doing a remake of his epic Blowtorch-scenarios... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesertFox Posted Thursday at 07:17 AM Share Posted Thursday at 07:17 AM On 9/3/2024 at 7:12 PM, Aragorn2002 said: CMAK 2.0, yes, definitely on top of my list, together with Stalingrad/Charkow 1942/1943. And period between Kursk and Bagration also deserves more attention. Who knows, perhaps Slitherine can deliver and we are heading for golden times. To be frank. IMHO the whole 06/1941 - 06/1944 timeframe of the Eastfront needs to be integrated. Best way propably would be to go back in time in 12months steps. 06/1943-06/1944 lets call it Kursk to Smolensk, then 06/1942-06/1943 lets call it Fall Blau to Charkov, 06/1941 - 06/1942 lets call it Barbarossa to Kiew. My money is ready for that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aragorn2002 Posted Thursday at 08:48 AM Share Posted Thursday at 08:48 AM 1 hour ago, DesertFox said: To be frank. IMHO the whole 06/1941 - 06/1944 timeframe of the Eastfront needs to be integrated. Best way propably would be to go back in time in 12months steps. 06/1943-06/1944 lets call it Kursk to Smolensk, then 06/1942-06/1943 lets call it Fall Blau to Charkov, 06/1941 - 06/1942 lets call it Barbarossa to Kiew. My money is ready for that. Amen to that, brother! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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