BornGinger Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 (edited) I was reading a little bit about text based AI-generated pictures and stable diffusion and found a link to a website called Stability-AI/Stable-Diffusion Here's another one called Stable Diffusion Online I got a little bit curious and decided to try it out so in the window for the text I wrote "Hitler in underwear waving a hand, Churchill on a chair reading a newspaper". As I didn't separate Hitler from Churchill in the text I wrote, these two characters got merged which made Hitler a bit fat. And it seems the text "in underwear" was too much for the AI. The pictures below are the result. I did a new try and decided to separate Hitler and Churchill. So I wrote "Hitler in German underwear waving a hand, Churchill beside on a chair reading a newspaper, a young lady sit on Churchhill's lap" and the results are below. It was time for a bit more serious attempt so I wrote "German world war 2 soldier runs on a street, Soviet village, T34 tank in the background" and the results are below. Try these online text to picture generators out and have fun with your pictures. If done properly with correct choice of text and a bit more advanced text to picture generators (online or open source to install on our computers) it is maybe possible to make interesting enough pictures for the different scenarios. Edited June 29, 2023 by BornGinger 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornGinger Posted July 11, 2023 Author Share Posted July 11, 2023 It seems most people on this forum are old farts with no interest in the future of making custom made pictures for either their homemade scenarios or ww2 pictures in general with only their interest in the AI technnology provided and their imagination of what a picture could look like to limit their creativity. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PEB14 Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 14 hours ago, BornGinger said: It seems most people on this forum are old farts with no interest in the future of making custom made pictures for either their homemade scenarios or ww2 pictures in general with only their interest in the AI technnology provided and their imagination of what a picture could look like to limit their creativity. Yes, I'm an old fart. A "homemade WW2 picture" is nothing but a fake. I don't intend to go into that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vergeltungswaffe Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 Me too. Those are horrible and I rue the day it's easy to make some that aren't. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornGinger Posted July 13, 2023 Author Share Posted July 13, 2023 On 7/12/2023 at 7:28 AM, PEB14 said: Yes, I'm an old fart. A "homemade WW2 picture" is nothing but a fake. I don't intend to go into that. 20 hours ago, Vergeltungswaffe said: Me too. Those are horrible and I rue the day it's easy to make some that aren't. Such cowards both of you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckdyke Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 On 7/11/2023 at 11:27 PM, BornGinger said: It seems most people on this forum are old farts with no interest in the future of making custom made pictures for either their homemade scenarios or ww2 pictures in general with only their interest in the AI technnology provided and their imagination of what a picture could look like to limit their creativity. What you think about us is none of our business. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vergeltungswaffe Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 5 hours ago, BornGinger said: Such cowards both of you. You're welcome to your opinion, but not wanting it to be easy to create fake pictures that could easily be perceived as real doesn't make us cowards. There are horrible things awaiting down that slippery slope. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slysniper Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 I had already been messing with the AI generated art programs on line. Done much better than these. But I do find it interesting in how the programs seem to lack the ability to grab precise images to mix and use at times. They seem to be very limited as to what images the programs are accessing. Thus making it hard to get the image you are trying to create with them So far I am not impressed with them. But for someone with no skills to create their own, it has a place. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlXII Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 6 hours ago, Vergeltungswaffe said: There are horrible things awaiting down that slippery slope. I would have to agree with Vergeltungswaffe on this...If we within a few years will be unable to trust pictures, video and recorded speech things could turn really ugly when it comes to things like legal and political matters... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckdyke Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 The actors are already on strike. You won't distinguish a really person from an AI generated one. It was demonstrated with Morgan Freeman. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PEB14 Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 On 7/14/2023 at 7:07 AM, CarlXII said: I would have to agree with Vergeltungswaffe on this...If we within a few years will be unable to trust pictures, video and recorded speech things could turn really ugly when it comes to things like legal and political matters... These times are already there... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PEB14 Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 On 7/13/2023 at 6:56 PM, BornGinger said: Such cowards both of you. We already had this discussion, regarding ChatGPT, elsewhere on this forum. I already had the opportunity to use AI for scientific matters. It's an interesting and useful tool. But I'm definitively not found of it for CREATIVE purposes, if only because it blurs the frontiers between true and fake. And don't drag me into that "truth is a relative kind of thing" mess; I don't buy it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckdyke Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 On 7/14/2023 at 1:07 PM, CarlXII said: .If we within a few years will be unable to trust pictures, They are not permitted as evidence they require the original card with the original RAW data. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornGinger Posted July 16, 2023 Author Share Posted July 16, 2023 Now we're talking. A bit of rude words from me and the thread began to live a little bit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NPye Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 It's still hit and miss and the AI doesn't know what real time period weapons are ie, Sherman tank, but you can get some ok stuff, the engines regularly ad a fifth finger, and other strange things but it is getting really good, I personally would never try to pass off a AI image as real but AI does have it's place, in illustrating images for articles and blogs etc... I made a set of British Infantry from WW1... Look at that expression and fear... Getting movement... Again the face of what is about to happen... Make the viewer think how bad it must have been???? But the AI really shines for me in producing images from another age, before photography existed????? Viking warlord... First Punic war... And on a lighter note.. Guess who? So the quality of the AI images is in the prompts the better the prompt the better the image, love or hate it it is here to stay.... Very scary on a grand scale and this is just the beginning? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NPye Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 Oh lets not exclude the King...lol 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckdyke Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 (edited) Imo opinion it is not cheating. The Old Masters had their toys too. Camera Obscura literally Dark Room, the Master sat inside his Dark Room and a Peephole reflected the image of his subject upside down on a White Wall. With mirrors the Master traced this image on canvas. That is how some photographic like images were painted in the 17th Century. More or less the same we do with Software on the computer. Edited July 17, 2023 by chuckdyke spelling 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckdyke Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 49 minutes ago, NPye said: But the AI really shines for me in producing images from another age, before photography existed????? They invented Valhalla the hall with broadminded tarts and plenty of booze. No problem if you died fighting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NPye Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, chuckdyke said: Imo opinion it is not cheating. The Old Masters had their toys too. Camera Obscura literally Dark Room, the Master sat inside his Dark Room and a Peephole reflected the image of his subject upside down on a White Wall. With mirrors the Master traced this image on canvas. That is how some photographic like images were painted in the 17th Century. More or less the same we do with Software on the computer. Yep I agree, although strangely, I understand the opposition... I like it, and is great for making time period images? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckdyke Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 8 minutes ago, NPye said: I like it, and is great for making time period images? This guy cheated Goring saw it as his patriotic duty. But he fooled all the experts by painting the old masters himself. Died in 1947 imagine what he could do with Photoshop? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NPye Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 Awesome bud, great skill... How the greats could be copied...lol BTW most of the greats could paint like the grand masters, they developed their own style and broke away from tradition... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckdyke Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, NPye said: Awesome bud, great skill... How the greats could be copied...lol BTW most of the greats could paint like the grand masters, they developed their own style and broke away from tradition... I watched a movie on Netflix about him, very enjoyable. To become a millionaire during WW2 is a hard act to follow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletpoint Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 3 hours ago, NPye said: So the quality of the AI images is in the prompts the better the prompt the better the image Probably more in the kind of AI generator you use. The good ones cost money to use. Try going back to the free generators Bjorn posted at the top and see if you can prompt anything good out of them 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NPye Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Bulletpoint said: Probably more in the kind of AI generator you use. The good ones cost money to use. Try going back to the free generators Bjorn posted at the top and see if you can prompt anything good out of them Ya i know some of the free ones are awful. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Canadian Cat Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 On 7/17/2023 at 2:23 AM, NPye said: I made a set of British Infantry from WW1... So the quality of the AI images is in the prompts the better the prompt the better the image, love or hate it it is here to stay.... Very scary on a grand scale and this is just the beginning? Nice now those are actually worth looking at and I can see a path to being useful when presented with some examples that make sense. Just skip over the utter trash form the OP. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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