weapon2010 Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 All games are updated with latest versions, I'm currently in a pbem where a Panther got in behind my M10 , I was kind of trapped and I thought my best odds were to give the M10 a 180 degree Armor arc to the rear , the M10 turret was facing completley forward for a 180 degree turn. The turret never turned , the panther spotted and destroyed the M10. I did some digging turns that out no turreted tank will make an exact 180 degree turret turn from any position,(ex:facing 90 , will not goto to 270) I did alot of testing on this if someone can confirm. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwolf Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 Hmmm, it seems that it doesn't work when I give it a straight 180-to-rear cover arc. But I just moved the turret step by step this way: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwolf Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 Very inconsistent so far in testing. Seems to have to do with whatever the previous cover arc was, hence the step-by-step. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howler Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 (edited) I can't reproduce this in CMCW. Also, I'd use "M" for armored TA rather than "K" to address the situation described in the top post. Anyhow, I tried both types of TAs and the vehicles (M60s) traversed from front to back... EDIT: CMCW 1.03 (non-steam) Edited January 6, 2022 by Howler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weapon2010 Posted January 6, 2022 Author Share Posted January 6, 2022 32 minutes ago, Redwolf said: Hmmm, it seems that it doesn't work when I give it a straight 180-to-rear cover arc. But I just moved the turret step by step this way: yes I can get it to work step by step as well, but never a full 180 turn, I only tested CMFB and CMBN 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwolf Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 My test was CMBN. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weapon2010 Posted January 6, 2022 Author Share Posted January 6, 2022 31 minutes ago, Redwolf said: Very inconsistent so far in testing. Seems to have to do with whatever the previous cover arc was, hence the step-by-step. My testing was very consistent that it does not work ,I will post a video 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwolf Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 I can also confirm that CMCW doesn't seem to have this problem. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pelican Pal Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 Does the M10 happen to have a rear mounted .50 cal? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weapon2010 Posted January 6, 2022 Author Share Posted January 6, 2022 10 minutes ago, Redwolf said: I can also confirm that CMCW doesn't seem to have this problem. agreed CMCW works perfect 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weapon2010 Posted January 6, 2022 Author Share Posted January 6, 2022 5 minutes ago, Pelican Pal said: Does the M10 happen to have a rear mounted .50 cal? it does not matter , I have duplicated the arc issue with Regular Shermans 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weapon2010 Posted January 6, 2022 Author Share Posted January 6, 2022 https://youtu.be/n7P4xYh8bJk CMBN This does not happen in CMCW, so far it does not work in CMBN and CMFB , let me check CMFI and CMRT 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weapon2010 Posted January 6, 2022 Author Share Posted January 6, 2022 So according to my tests Target Arc is not functioning properly in CMBN, CMFI, CMFB. Its perfectly fine in CMRT and CMCW. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weapon2010 Posted January 6, 2022 Author Share Posted January 6, 2022 Not properly ONLY when you need a 180 degree turn in your arc I should say, This would be understandably hard to spot as I have played over 100 PBEMs and maybe needed the 180 arc turn 2 or 3 times in my playing life, It did however not functioning properly in my current CMFB PBEM and I very well could have spotted that panther 1st and destroyed him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weapon2010 Posted January 6, 2022 Author Share Posted January 6, 2022 https://youtu.be/aoblJVDjGtM working as intended in CMRT https://youtu.be/n7P4xYh8bJk not working in CMBN 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba883XL Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 have you issued a ticket or let BFC elvis know? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 (edited) On 1/6/2022 at 7:59 PM, weapon2010 said: https://youtu.be/aoblJVDjGtM working as intended in CMRT https://youtu.be/n7P4xYh8bJk not working in CMBN You are missing something, as @Pelican Pal attempted to point out.....The tanks that don't turn their turrets all have AA MGs and are opened up, thus they could engage targets within that arc without turning their turrets. What happens if you give them 2km Target Armour Arcs? Edited January 12, 2022 by Sgt.Squarehead 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weapon2010 Posted January 13, 2022 Author Share Posted January 13, 2022 (edited) So your ok with engaging enemy armor behind your tank with your AA gun? That does not make sense either. They don't rotate when you give them an "Armor Arc". Edited January 13, 2022 by weapon2010 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 (edited) 17 minutes ago, weapon2010 said: So your ok with engaging enemy armor behind your tank with your AA gun? That does not make sense either. They don't rotate when you give them an "Armor Arc". Your comment makes no sense. I'm simply pointing out that the tanks in your demonstration that do not rotate their turrets can cover the arcs you have deployed without needing to turn their turrets as they have AA MGs. Conversely the tanks that do turn their turrets would be unable to cover the arcs you have deployed without turning their turrets as they do not have AA MGs. Edited January 13, 2022 by Sgt.Squarehead 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weapon2010 Posted January 13, 2022 Author Share Posted January 13, 2022 https://youtu.be/HeuzR0B6F_U No AA Guns ...........Turrets wont turn 180 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weapon2010 Posted January 13, 2022 Author Share Posted January 13, 2022 2 hours ago, Sgt.Squarehead said: The tanks that don't turn their turrets all have AA MGs wrong , AA guns have nothing at all to do with whether a tank turns its turret or not 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 Looks like you are right.....Just tested a selection of CM:BN AFVs and they all steadfastly refuse to swing those turrets around 1800, no matter what type of arc I give them. As noted I can progressively get the turret to swing around, but not in one go. Very odd, maybe @IanL or @BFCElvis should take a look at this? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weapon2010 Posted January 13, 2022 Author Share Posted January 13, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Sgt.Squarehead said: Looks like you are right. Thankyou , something Ill never hear from my wife 2 minutes ago, Sgt.Squarehead said: As noted I can progressively get the turret to swing around, but not in one go. agreed , but in CMRT and CMCW the arcs work as normal and intended Edited January 13, 2022 by weapon2010 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, weapon2010 said: but in CMRT and CMCW work as normal I'll take your word for it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynaman216 Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 Exactly 180 degrees not working is an interesting edge case for the logic. When trying to decide to turn clockwise or counterclockwise it may fall through since both are equally "good". Strange it does not happen in every title though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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