John Kettler Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 Don't claim to know how to depict this in CM, if it can be depicted in CM, but Breakthrough is all about the Russians in the Second Chechen War fighting a highly outnumbered desperate battle from a hilltop blocking position trying to hold off an enormous force of Chechen and other fighters while waiting for reinforcements. This great war movie draws upon real events in the iconic 2000 Battle of Height 776. It's in Russian with English subtitles. Would post link, but YT won't allow this one to be embedded. Channel is called Epic Media English. Combat action is intense, and a wide variety of weaponry is shown. There's some excellent scenes of BMD-2s shot mostly from close range. Regards, John Kettler 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fireship4 Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91UK5WFNaqI 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 (edited) If it has BMD-2s it could only be done with CM:A at present. PS - At an initial glance CM:A definitely seems the way forward. Edited October 2, 2021 by Sgt.Squarehead 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted October 2, 2021 Author Share Posted October 2, 2021 Sgt.Squarehead, BMD-2s are in the movie, but they aren't involved in the mountaintop fighting. Interestingly, though, the VDV guys ride around on top of them, just like we've seen from Afghanistan and the invasion of Georgia. The pic was shot in Georgia.https://warisboring.com/the-ussrs-air-dropped-fighting-vehicles-tore-through-cold-war-conflicts/ Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 Suspect they're a bit cramped. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fireship4 Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 Looks like you would have your knees beside your shoulders in there. They can vary their suspension too those things. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 (edited) This one seems moderately bonkers too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48d0afTREbA Apparently YouTube won't let me embed it. Edited October 2, 2021 by Sgt.Squarehead 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted October 3, 2021 Author Share Posted October 3, 2021 9 hours ago, Sgt.Squarehead said: Suspect they're a bit cramped. No doubt. Circa 1980, got to visit my brother at the National Training Center, where they had a bunch of Soviet built weaponry, including a T-55, a T-62, a BMP-1 and an MTLB. For me, at 5'11", the T-55 was workable because of turret height and layout, but the T-62 was a nightmare, including no headroom and aa remarkable setup seemed designed to bruise and contuse the crew at every turn, including some sort of square railing with knife sharp edges and ends seemingly designed to tear great chunks of flesh from the crew--regardless of tanker coveralls. The back end of the BMP-1 was open, so I gave that a go and failed. Was way too tall when seated. Was barely able to get into the also open back of the MTLB. Decades later, I got to clamber into the back of an ex-Czech Mi-24, and that was quite the contortionist routine to get in and out, too. Given these experiences, and based on other video I've seen, the BMDs 1 and 2 for sure must be horrible to ride in, even by BMP standards. In this video, made by the manufacturer, we can see lots more of the external riding going on, coupled with a whopping few second clip of infantry emerging from BMD-2s in combat line. And here we have a somewhat vertiginous look at the BMD-2 inside and out. Talk about tight confines! Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HUSKER2142 Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 (edited) When the BMP-1/2 and BMD-1/2 were created, the average height of the soldiers was ~ 170 cm and then there was still no body armor and other equipment. The maximum that the soldier was carrying was an assault rifle, 4 magazines for the assault rifle, several grenades, an OZK with a gas mask and a duffel bag. The BMP-3 is actually only soviet vehicle that was made taking into account the equipment of a soldier and his height, which by that time was already an average of 180 cm. Edited October 3, 2021 by HUSKER2142 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted October 3, 2021 Author Share Posted October 3, 2021 3 hours ago, HUSKER2142 said: When the BMP-1/2 and BMD-1/2 were created, the average height of the soldiers was ~ 170 cm and then there was still no body armor and other equipment. The maximum that the soldier was carrying was an assault rifle, 4 magazines for the assault rifle, several grenades, an OZK with a gas mask and a duffel bag. The BMP-3 is actually only soviet vehicle that was made taking into account the equipment of a soldier and his height, which by that time was already an average of 180 cm. That's 5'9", which I believe I could deal with. Is the average height you cite for the soldiers with or without helmet? Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HUSKER2142 Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 3 hours ago, John Kettler said: That's 5'9", which I believe I could deal with. Is the average height you cite for the soldiers with or without helmet? Without a helmet, if I correctly calculated your height ~ 175 cm. In theory, it should have been easier for you. But I am already problematic with my height of 183 cm. Apparently, when they created combat vehicles, the designers did not expect how war would change. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted October 3, 2021 Author Share Posted October 3, 2021 22 minutes ago, HUSKER2142 said: Without a helmet, if I correctly calculated your height ~ 175 cm. In theory, it should have been easier for you. But I am already problematic with my height of 183 cm. Apparently, when they created combat vehicles, the designers did not expect how war would change. Husker2142, As far as sitting, and this sometimes is an issue for me in cars here, headroom is an issue, for I am long in the torso. Am 180 cm tall, in round numbers. Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
civdiv Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Cool war movie. Has nothing to do with what actually happened (your usual Russian eff-up in Chechnya), but good fiction. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckdyke Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 Best snipershot ever unfortunately it happens at the end. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 WTF was that? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckdyke Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Sgt.Squarehead said: WTF was that? It is a French movie I think it is hilarious, they should have an Oscar for animals the Pitbull played it to perfection. But it i at the very end. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt_Winters Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 10 hours ago, Sgt.Squarehead said: WTF was that? WTF was that? Is right. I can't believe I watched 2 minutes of it. Although I did catch myself smiling. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan/california Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 20 hours ago, chuckdyke said: Best snipershot ever unfortunately it happens at the end. I spent three minutes killing brain cells before I realized the link was for the WHOLE MOVIE. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckdyke Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 1 minute ago, dan/california said: I spent three minutes killing brain cells before I realized the link was for the WHOLE MOVIE. I don't expect people to watch all of the movie, the last 10 minutes is hilarious. The Pitbull deserves an Oscar, to think of it they should introduce one for animals. The movie is worth watching if you like comedies. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marwek77 aka Red Reporter Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 On 12/14/2021 at 9:26 AM, chuckdyke said: Best snipershot ever unfortunately it happens at the end. Schmidt & Bender Rifle Scope - same as mine 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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