KGBoy Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 A 105mm shell killed it. I heard it couldn't happen? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macisle Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 It can happen. Even medium mortars can take out tanks if they hit the right spot. It's just very rare. One of my best CM moments to date was having the first round of medium mortar FFE hit the engine deck of a Panther that was covering my desired avenue of approach. Brewed it right up! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MG TOW Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 that's a real pickle barrel of a shot. I think it happens too often myself. But if it did happen top armor is weak so it would penetrate. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckdyke Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Happened once in Seven Winds and it was a Stug III hit by a 25 Pounder. Things like that can happen in the most perfect ambush positions. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethaface Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 I think the issue is more with modern tanks; I had an Oplot in CMBS survive multiple 203mm / 152mm direct impacts. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletpoint Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 It can definitely happen. Tanks are just too strong generally against artillery. You need a direct hit unless you're talking huge shells (more than 150mm generally). In real life, close misses will also knock out tanks, blowing off their tracks and penetrating the armour by fragments. There was a long thread about it on this forum. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Yeah, endless salvos of 122mm PGMs bouncing off all the targets they were designed to kill. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chibot Mk IX Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Arty kills in WW II title happen As mentioned above , the complaint is more about modern title, though CM in WW II title didn't simulate the "Soft kill" ability well. in CMBS, I have seen a Bradley survived two direct 122mm PGM hit, it can still move and fire after that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 20 minutes ago, Chibot Mk IX said: in CMBS, I have seen a Bradley survived two direct 122mm PGM hit, it can still move and fire after that. I had one of those b******s take nine PGMs and still trundle down the map and shoot my MTLBs to bits. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckdyke Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Armour protection on the turret roof is 17mm at some places. It was unbuttoned and dropped on the lap of the commander? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pelican Pal Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 This seems like a good time to link my tests. Artillery, while it does have effect on direct hits, lacks modeling against subsystems. IMO this is fairly important in a sim and doubly so in a modern setting. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 NATO 105mm Light Gun kills a T-55 with a direct hit: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletpoint Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Maybe the reason there's an effect with direct hits is that the game basically just sees that the weight of the shell itself is enough to punch through the thin upper armour? That's why we see "penetration" shown. But the effect of the explosives and fragments against the armour is not properly modelled. Which is why airbursts have no effect. Would a 105mm shell with an inert filling go through the top of a T-55? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chibot Mk IX Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 4 hours ago, Sgt.Squarehead said: I had one of those b******s take nine PGMs and still trundle down the map and shoot my MTLBs to bits. lol, I miss my poor MTLB too. Is that from scenario "Galloping Horse Downfall" ? I have a wild guess, the problem is caused by ERA bricks. Will do some test in the future. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGBoy Posted February 12, 2021 Author Share Posted February 12, 2021 In another thread on the Netflix series The Liberators there were exceptions made to the depiction of artillery taking out tanks as 'unrealistic'. In the show it portrayed artillery bombardments on the scale of WWI where you measured the coverage in sq. meters. There is nothing like that scale of bombardment in CM (that I have seen). I am curious Sarge SH whether the pics that you have were just gotten or saved from a while ago? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 53 minutes ago, Chibot Mk IX said: lol, I miss my poor MTLB too. Is that from scenario "Galloping Horse Downfall" ? I have a wild guess, the problem is caused by ERA bricks. Will do some test in the future. Yeah, that's the one.....It's becoming kind of notorious! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethaface Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 In a recently concluded PBEM I killed a T-72B3 by luck with a 120mm barrage. Forward top hull without ERA. However Oplot I got different results with 152mm test a while ago: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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