Is it worth now?

[Forneus]

Hi, i played CMBO, BB and AK long time ago and it was good time. How it looks now? The game is still the same? Community alive? Is it easy to find opponent to play online?

I checked other forum, i see ladder still exists but hard to tell how it really works.

If U think its worth still, most important think is which part to buy? Im really shocked about the prices of that series now, its not cheap. 

I thought about the latest, Final Blitzkrieg, but i looked at it and at some others CM on YT, and hard to say anything.

So, anything u can recommend after 15 years break? And...is it still worth it?

Thanks for response in advance, and sorry for my english, im not native

 

[landser]

15 minutes ago, Forneus said:

Hi, i played CMBO, BB and AK long time ago and it was good time.

Indeed it was.

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How it looks now?

Better. After a fairly long break and a new PC i recently got back in to Combat Mission and started with CMBB and CMAK. There's little you could do that would do a better job of driving home the differences in CMx2 than this. It's one thing to remember and recall (tinted by nostalgia), but quite another to play one after the other, unmodded. It's come a long way, but then.....

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The game is still the same?

More or less. Much has changed and then again a lot has not. Still the finest tactical wargame in my view.

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most important think is which part to buy?

Best advice is to get the title which covers the theater you're most interested in. Failing that, get CMBN

Edit: Play a few demos and you'll know which one to get.

 

Edited September 27, 2019 by landser

[MikeyD]

BFC has kept the game engine current on all active titles with regular updates/patches so there's technically no 'older' or 'newer' titles. They're all at the same level.

Two suggestions.
(1) Download the demos and play-play-play until your gameplay skills have returned. I cringe whenever I read of new players immediately starting a campaign before they've acquainted with game commands.

(2) Don't overthink your purchase! If you're interested in the Bulge battles buy CMFB, if you're interested in modern desert fighting buy CMSF2. Would you rather play in snow or desert, hedgerows, pine forests, or birch trees?

 

[grungar]

these new titles are more difficult imo then the old games. yes its worth it to get one or more of these. cmbn has the most content by far with market garden and a many many user made scenarios. yes its easy go get multi player games. only draw back there is nothing in real time for mp. the maps are way cool the soldiers behave very differently and overall not cartoonish like the originals.fog of war is handled more realistic. like landser said get a demo...they show the games off pretty well

[Dynaman216]

Download one of the demos.  That will either have you salivating for the full game or let you know it is not for you.

[Ultradave]

Also, there are demos for EACH game. Free. Download them all and try them out. They will give you a good flavor of each particular title. But they are all worth it, and you'll probably have most fun with the period/campaign that interests you the most.

[Sgt.Squarehead]

13 hours ago, Forneus said:

And...is it still worth it?

Two words.....The first is unprintable & the second is 'Yeah!' 

Edited September 28, 2019 by Sgt.Squarehead

[Erwin]

16 hours ago, Forneus said:

Im really shocked about the prices of that series now, its not cheap. 

Well... there is approx 54% US inflation and over 71% UK inflation(!) in terms of what money will buy since 1999 till 2019.  The other issue is that the prices charged in 1999 for CM1 games was not economically viable - ie: they were way underpriced.  In addition the CM2 games are far more sophisticated than CM1.  While it is annoying to have to have so many game families installed on a computer, the fact is that each game family provides almost as many hundreds of hours of play as one of the CM1 titles.  And the pricing (hopefully) enables BF to stay in business when so many competitors have disappeared - leaving BF with a monopoly on realistic tactical 3D wargames of this genre.

[umlaut]

17 hours ago, Forneus said:

 Im really shocked about the prices of that series now, its not cheap.

No, the game is not cheap when you purchase it - but in the long run it actually often is.

I usually say this when people complain about the price:

I have lots of games that have cost me 20 or 30 $ - and I have played them less than 10 hours. Then there´s CMBN. It costs far more, but it has given me thousands of hours of gameplay - and still does.  So when it comes to price per hour of gameplay, CMBN is by far the cheapest game I ever bought.

Like the others, I recommend you try the demos: If you like playing them, then you have found a game that you probably wont get tired of for a very long time.

[A Canadian Cat]

4 hours ago, Sgt.Squarehead said:

Two words.....The first is unprintable & the second is 'Yeah!' 

??? Not sure what the problem with Heck is.

Heck Yeah. Both words are printable.

[Forneus]

Thank U all for help. Yep i didnt know there are demos  ! I already downloaded BN and FB - and there is so much contents that i will have fun for days!

Yep U were right, game is still unique and best of its kind. I just think its little pity that is so much hard to find that game, or even knowing about it.

I found it, i think mostly beacuse i knew it exists. I remember times when CM3 was cheap game, (i bought it 15 years ago for about 20$) and really many players played it.

I didnt mean to complain about the prices, i just remember times when that game was very popular and known by many. 

Oki, i play that demos at engine 3 and it looks good. Engine 4 who is in full version makes all looks even better?

Thanks again, i know now i will back to this game

[Sgt.Squarehead]

Welcome (back) to the war! 

PS - Engine 4 adds lots of features to the games. 

Edited September 28, 2019 by Sgt.Squarehead

[landser]

1 hour ago, Forneus said:

I found it, i think mostly beacuse i knew it exists.

That's deep

But you have a point, and good thing that we DO know about it, for us. It's a pity for the folks who have no idea, and that's an issue for Battlefront to address innit? But honestly, a game like this could be plastered all over and still there'd only be a small cross section with the requisite refinement to play. It's niche for a number of reasons, not least because many have a lower standard

In all seriousness though I recommend CMBN to most folks who ask. If we set aside the particular focus of any Combat Mission title, be it Normandy, the Bulge or Syria, which is rather important, but if that isn't factored in CMBN has a lot of content. Not just in modules, units, battles and campaigns, but in mods as well. Along with Shock Force 2 I think CMBN gives the player the best bang for his buck.

I really like Red Thunder for a number of reasons, I'm foxhole-deep in Blunting the Spear as we speak, but I'd rarely recommend it to a newish player over Normandy unless he asks which is the best East Front 1944 World War 2 Combat Mission game. Then it's a bit more clear.

[umlaut]

8 hours ago, Forneus said:

I didnt mean to complain about the prices,

And I didn´t mean to imply that you did