BLSTK Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 ... the Me262 will be making an appearance. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AttorneyAtWar Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Die Glocke as well, it makes your panzers float. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
domfluff Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 The me262 wouldn't be impossible for the time period, but I don't think it had any success in ground attack. Also, it's not in the manual... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Placebo Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 I like the sound of that, dispite the fact that we would not see it and I can't remember ever playing a game on the western front with Axis air support - it would still be a nice addition. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Placebo Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 "On Christmas Eve, the Allies experienced the first ever attack by jet bombers. Sixteen German Me-262’s attacked rail yards in an attempt to upset the ability of the Allies to supply themselves."Looks like they were in the air but not used in close air support. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Looks like they were in the air but not used in close air support.They would have been most unsatisfactory as close support fighter bombers is my suspicion. Absent the kind of bomb aiming computers that came into service in the 1970s, low-level bombing at the speeds they traveled was pretty inaccurate. I guess for certain kinds of targets they might suffice, but I wouldn't like to have them operating in my neighborhood.Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c3k Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 They would have been most unsatisfactory as close support fighter bombers is my suspicion. Absent the kind of bomb aiming computers that came into service in the 1970s, low-level bombing at the speeds they traveled was pretty inaccurate. I guess for certain kinds of targets they might suffice, but I wouldn't like to have them operating in my neighborhood.MichaelWell, as I'm sure you know, the ONLY reason they could even attempt ground attack was Hitler's insistence that bomb hardpoints be added to wings. Delayed their operational debut by ~9-12 months. I can't believe you think Hitler's tactical acumen could wrong. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLSTK Posted January 28, 2016 Author Share Posted January 28, 2016 So, BFC, is the rumour true? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Well, as I'm sure you know, the ONLY reason they could even attempt ground attack was Hitler's insistence that bomb hardpoints be added to wings.WRONG! The hard points were under the forward fuselage.Thought you'd want to know.Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jotte Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 *German soldier anno 1945-45, points to the sky*-" Do you hear that?"*Silence*- "Thats the Luftwaffe you are hearing"... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukeFF Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Delayed their operational debut by ~9-12 months. I can't believe you think Hitler's tactical acumen could wrong. Sorry, but that's a long-ago debunked myth. Â 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisND Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 So, BFC, is the rumour true?Um, no 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c3k Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 WRONG! The hard points were under the forward fuselage.Thought you'd want to know.Michaelthanks 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c3k Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Sorry, but that's a long-ago debunked myth.  obviously, still bunked for me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 obviously, still bunked for me. You might want to be more careful who you bunk with. You can get a serious case of something.Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Speakup Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 It looks like he's suffering from a serious case of the schwalbes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordhedgwich Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 I was hoping this would be like rumor has it CMAK 2 is coming out =/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c3k Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Well played, gents, well played. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLSTK Posted January 29, 2016 Author Share Posted January 29, 2016 Sorry. I couldn't resist. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sequoia Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 There is a rumor, started by Steve, and I can find you the post if you insist, that the final module for the FB Family may include the Maus or E-100. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobetco Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 wouldn't i make more sense for the "Maus" to show up in a Russian module? its not at the kubinka tank museum for no reason. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sequoia Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 As I recall the Soviets captured the 2 unfinished prototypes somewhere deep in Austria. I would assume including a Maus or E-100 would presume accelerated development or delay of the wars end. Personally I'd rather see something rare that actually saw combat than 2 projects that really were rather dumb and only had a remote chance of ever becoming operational. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 (edited) There was never a single Maus completed by the Germans, or so goes what I read in my high school days. The supposed complete Maus at Kubinka was created when the Russians married a turret from one vehicle under construction with the hull from another. But don't take my word for it...prototype https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PTFnl316ugBut there is apparently new information that the Germans sent two working prototypes from Kummersdorf Proving Ground in Germany to the Berlin, but one broke down en route, while another fought near Wunsdorf (was supposed to go to Zoessen), but was destroyed to prevent capture. No Austria in the story anywhere--other than the Big Boss's birthplace.Be sure to sign Release, Indemnify and Hold Harmless Agreement before going here for a simply stupendous piece on the German super heavies, an extensive article replete with blueprints, line drawings, artist renderings and pics. http://strangevehicles.greyfalcon.us/PANZERKAMPFWAGEN VIII MAUS.htmThe Maus is behemoth cool, but I'd rather see BFC do other things with all that time, effort and money: Panther IR and Uhu IR target searchlight for night fighting, Wanze, Jagdpanther 88s dug in practically flush with the ground on improvised field mounts, proper street barricades, log cribs, fortified buildings and large blockhouses, etc. Regards,John Kettler Edited January 30, 2016 by John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sublime Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 Actually in A Time For Trumpets MacDonald mentions IR spotlight equipped panthers being sent into the offensive. No further mention though.Im now reading his Company Commander book which is... excellent to say the least. Belton Coopers Death Traps is good but I havent read all of it yet though a flyleaf description was certainly offputting. Its not a direct quote but  basically says it describes the experiences of the US tank repair units etc which the Wehrmacht did not have. Which is nonsense. The Wehrmacht repaired battle damaged tanks all the time when salvageable. I think Mr Cooper may simply have gotten the wrong impression only seeing the Wehrmacht from June 44 to the end.Obviously an army in retreat cant salvage many vehicles. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 Im now reading his Company Commander book which is... excellent to say the least.Heartily agree. I read it ~35 years ago and thought it the best memoir written from this level of command I had ever read, an opinion I have not yet found it necessary to change. I have recommended it several times in these pages.Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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