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You shouldn't worry about that. In 2014 in order to receive corps level arty support, our troops in avarage wait about 15-20 minutes and about in 1,5 times less for brigade-level. CAS delay could be 20...30+ minutes. Of course, dynamic of real actions is much slower than in CM. Roughly, 1 minute in CM turn can be equal 2 minutes of real fight or even more. So artillery delay in the game in whole is made correctly.

As I have seen that was a gathering point of all forces, surrounded near Ilovaisk. 24-25th Aug after Russian invasion to this town area have withdrew remains of Sector D troops with own supply units. Also HQ of Sector B was placed near Ilovaisk. I read 26-27th in area of base camp were set several minefields by sappers of 91st engineer regiment. Very probably that "frendly mine". But I can't say on 100 % I watched video again - there were several tank shots and 30 mm BMP bursts. But why column turned back, I can't say. I even don't know what episode on video and where it really filmed. I think, forward armored group can't uncover enemy positions and didn't risk to advance in order not to get RPG from ambush. Fighters on video tell each other that "enemy have a time to make strong fortifications". Looks like this was main cause of retreat. Of course, in CM usual player would consider that power of two tanks is enough to direct attack On 13:02 usual tank, but his turret turned on 8 hours. Initially because of camera shake and smoke I thought this is BTS-4 mover armed with MG. About terrain. Yes. Our colunmes drove on open space. Enemy have took positions aside in small villages and low heights. In some places enemy positions were in 100 m aside the road. The sunflower became as sorrow symbol of Ilovaisk massacre. In endless sunflower fields survived soldiers tried to find own salvation...

Неre this video, possibly I already posted it, but doubt... This is start of moving of UKR troops (army, border guards, volunteers) from the base camp near Agronomichne and Mnohopillia villages some southern from Ilovaisk. Dawn of 29 Aug 2014. All only is beginning. To the end of day most of these guys on video will be already dead, wounded or captured.

In the game you, of course, can use them as you wish In real life these guys often forced to substitute own comredes on platoon strongpoints. But part of HQ can be dislocated in company's rear.

UKR and RUS Company HQs almost equal and have roots in Soviet company battle order. Here for example UKR Coy HQ, which has 8 men + radio operator 1. Company commander - captain. 2. Deputy of company commander (of working with personnel) - senior lietenant or lietenant 3. Senior technecian of company - senior warrant officer 4. Sergeant-mayor of company - warrant officer (logistic duty) 5. Medic-instructor - senior sergeant or sergeant 6. Radar operator - soldier (has SBR-3 portable radar, but in 90 % this duty either abscent or this soldier is using like a... in different purposes ) 7. Senior driver - senior soldier (driver of command BMP/BTR) 8. Gunner - soldier (gunner of command BMP/BTR) 9. Radio operator - soldier (attached from battalion signal platoon for communication of comapny commander with battalion HQ)

Nobody wants to die. If you can't detect source of incoming fire, especially sniper, this can seriously reduce motivation of personnel to advance. Here for you the video with almost similar situation. 10 Aug 2014 - the probe to enter in Ilovaisk. Fighters of "Azov" advance through the sunflower field and turn under fire of enemy snipers and MGs. During all video fighters ask each other "Do you see them ? From where is fire?" They are shelling ruined building, the house nearby (at the end of video in that house ammo dumb is setting fire). On 6:12 famous "Azov" arniored KAMAZ guntruck "Prianyk" (eng."Gingerbread") is appearing. "Move 300 meters forward for better position!", order it commander. Later "Prianyk" will be damaged with incoming fire and will leave the battle (not filmed). Single armor on video - BMP-2 of 51st mech.brigade, which covered "Azov". It's continuously is breaking during the battle and at the end failed completely and was abandoned by crew. "Azov" tried to advance under fire, but lost 3 KIA. The same situation was with "Donbas", which adcanced left from "Azov". They encountered with heavy fortified positions and masked enemy riflemen in tree-plants, which couldn't exactly detect. Thus, again several snipers, MGs and 1-2 82 mm mortars have stopped advance of 200 men. In this day UKR forces lost 12 KIA (4 from "Donbas", 3 from "Azov", 3 from 40th territorial defense battalion "Kryvbas", 2 from "Right sector"). Big trouble of CM - almost immediate uncovering of position of groups, which open fire. As you see on videos, which I upload here, in most cases, soldiers can't detect point of fire and forced just to shoot in suspicious places. And of course if you will try to play like in real life in order to save own pixeltrooppen, you will not throw them through the fields on enemy invisible MGs. Better to see from 1:23

L200 of 79th brigade also have armor, installed by volunteers, but in several zones only. Border guards have 12 armored Ford Ranger donated by USA, not Touaregs. Also 55 LandRover Defender, part of its have been armored in Ukraine. Rest are unarmnored jeeps UAZ-3151, UAZ-3163, Chevrolet Niva. But all these vehicles havn't armament and their purpose just moving of patrol groups. Combat armor in Border Guard represented by KRAZ/Streit Group Cobra and Cougar armored cars (less 100) and usual BTRs (-70, -80, -7) Armed jeeps have a sence only on huge maps, when need covert recon or strike and scoot actions. Of course in head-to-head clashes on small/medium maps, filled with hordes of armor and artillery its just can bring more points to opponent.

This is naturally - if army armor turns back, for light armed Donbas to continie attack is a suicide.

This video named battalion "Donbas" in the battle near Karlivka 23.05.2014, but I doubt. In this day in Karlivka a platoon of this volunteer battalion was ambushed in this settlement and have suffred heavy losses. They havn't any armor like in this video. Possibly, this is attempt to break through to Karlivka after the ambush with suport of some army units, but I can't say exacly. In the the video, initially, column of UKR forces - T-64BV, 2 BMP-2, BTS-4 turned into armored MG platform (looks like all from 93rd brigade), BTR-80 (I think, from some National Guard special unit) and dozen pick-ups of "Donbas" are moving by road to own objective. Operator is driving with "Donbas". Armored vanguard of UKR troops engaged by enemy - heavy shooting heard, but strange, BMPs and tank didn't shot from own guns. "Donbas" fighters are starting also intensive shooting through tree-plant aside the road. Looks like it's just "area fire" for suppression of possible enemy beyond tree-plant. Vanguard is turned back, "Donbas" fighters say "There is heavy enemy positions and as minimum four snipers and MG gunners - we can't detect their positions, just bullets wizz near eras. We need outflank it left". But soon they decided to return on own position. Looks like no losses in column after engagement. Several snipers and MG-gunners have forced column with armor to cancel own mission. Repeat this in CM !

UKR 79-th air-assault brigade and many other units are using Mitsubishi L200 as HMG, ATGM (including Stuhna-P) and mortar carriers. By the way L200 is one of most popular base for guntrucks in Ukrainian army. Recons, Special forces, fire support units - many of them use pick-up cars instead BTRs, because its faster and less expensive. But all these vehicles are civil volunteers aid and not officially in unit's TO&E

Very short video, uploaded 1-2 days ago. Russian crew of BMD-2 from 247th air-assault regiment of 7th air-assault mountain division is spotting battlefield southern of Horbatenko village with recently hit and burning Ukrainian vehicles of "Sector B" HQ group during elimination of Ukrainian columnes, exiting from Ilovaisk 29th Aug 2014. Good to see how narrow angle of view has spotting devices of armored vehicles (to the question about fast spotting targets by armor in CM) So, what we can see on this video. Infographics from Ukrainian OSINT blogger Askai. First of all through what filmed the video. 1 UAZ-469 of 121st signal regiment. The jeep have got ATGM missile. In the car were senior officers - colonel, commander of 121st signal regiment - was heavy injured and shot by Russian officer, when Russians and merceneries were taking prisoners after massacre; mayor, officer of SIGINT troops control of "East" operative command (organizated control of UAV usage during Ilovaisk operation); captain, officer of SIGINT troops control of "East" operative command. Both got killed in the car. Only driver was wounded and survived. 2. Destroyed communication vehicle 1B1Sh "Kushetka-B" (on base of BTR-80) of 121st signal regiment. In the vehicle got killed two servicemen of 121st brigade and mayor, communication officer of 208th information&signal node of "East" operative command. Fourth crewman - lieutenent colonel can survive. 3. BMP-2 of 7th company of 3rd batatlion of 51st mech.brigade.Three bodies were found nearby - soldiers have sat on top. Burned remains of crew were extracted much later and identified by DNA test only in 2015 - when volunteers abd Red Cross in next three days were gathering bodies, BMP stil hot like owen and they couldn't reach to them. Probably colonel, commander of 51st brigade also got killed near this BMP.

Sorry for delay with answer, I have watch this material - there just briefly tell about stance of Ukrainan army on eve of war, about problems with capable troops number during Crimea annexion and initial phase of ATO - group of Ukrainin Natioal Guard, Police, SBU and partially army forces, which lately were involved in operation of Sloviansk blocking was not more then 1800 men. Other part pf army in that time either moved to the border from Chernihiv to Kherson and Odesa and try to reinforce itself with mobilized personnel and repaired vehicles. Almost tell about complete abscence of proper HQ control of troops in 2014 during summer campaign. Men which are giving interview are officer of 95th VDV brigade (in khaki T-shirt) and famous civil volunteers Yury Biriukov (in blue T-shirt) and "Serge Marco" (in rose), which applied many efforts to rise up in 2014 of 79th VDV brigade and Marines. Biriukov later have became president's advisor and launched many programs in MoD (new MREs, new system of feedeing, new system of logistic, new uniform and gears etc) - alas all of them are implementing too slow because of resistance of MoD officials and some corrupted political and business representatives. Some telling about DAP and Debaltsevo, about Russian new C&C (R-166) and EW (R-330Zh) vehicles, used in the war. "Serg Marco" tell that during final phase of Debaltsevo battle Russian EW systems almost completely downed communication in Debaltsevo appendix. Though, this is not surprised - most of platoon-level radios in infantry usage in that time were civil chineese radios, Soviet type military radios or even cell-phones.

Not each fire contact on Promka or elsewhwre is acompaning with mortars. Looks like in this case enemy has established own fortification too close to our positions. Usually on such position can be one-two piece(s) of heavy infantry weapon and half or full squad of personnnel. Possibly after first shells enemy just fled and RS guys calmly had been destroying enemy position. On third ATGM launch operator exclaims: "Directly in the window!"

Yes, that one team firing. Though, video was mounted - you can see on 0:25-0:26 a smoke is disappearing at once. But here episode of skirmish in Avdiivka industrial zone ("Promka"), also for April 2016. Fire support group of Right Sectror is desroying enemy fortified point. 6 ATGMs through 3 minutes + probably 2 SPG-9 and PKM About your last question - about of 30-40 % of AT-4 ATGMs expired own terms of use, so such behavior (launch fails, loss of inflight control, weird trajectories) is typical.

Known video for April 2016, but now in good quality. Two enemy trucks with mounted mortars were driving to position. UKR ATGM crew has shelled its and made big boom by hitting of truck with ammunition. Enemy losses in that attack were 5 KIA, 10 WIA. In media mistakinly has been considering that this is Stugna-P launch (because of trajectory of first missile), but in real this was AT-4C Fagot, just first missile failed. The operator, which has launched these missiles, got killed in result of 152 mm artillery strike since half year after this shot.

@snake_eye Small remark - right spelling is Kyivs'kyi (eng. Kievan) - without capital K after apostrophe. The apostrophe also can be ignored - it just signs soft consonant, in English phonetics it's mostly ignored for more simple writing.

All what you want, but only not short time frames :). Ilovaisk breakthrough need a map about 27x10 km - there wasn't situation, when column was destroyed at once in some area. Assault of Donetsk airport is a complex battle, which doesn't limited only with fall of terminal. I just havn't ideas how to do this - either whole ATO campaign, or several independent campaigns "summer 2014", "South pocket. Sector D", "Russian invasion. Sector B (Ilovaisk)", "Russian invasion. Sector A /Luhansk airport battle/", "Donetsk airport", "Debaltsevo", "Avdiivka". But till in the game will not appear ZU-23, guntrucks, HMGs, BTR-80 and some other stuff (UNCONS.. ah...) it hasn't any sense.

I will try to do that, but after module issue. There is one trouble in real ATO operations modelling - its mostly not playable in usual CM sense. Huge spaces, mostly low troops density, many many many mortars and artillery fire, long time fire contact with relatively low level of losses, when after several KIA/WIA attack usually were stopping. For example, diring Debaltsevo operation there was battle for Novoorlovka village - our platoon two days withstanded against about company of enemy. Reinforcements from neighbor VOPs were coming in forces of squad and then were returning back. Two days of real fight. And 2 KIA form our side. How much time would occupie standard mission "take the village with company against platoon"? )

Total during Ilovaisk battle were captured 17 Russian regulars. All were turned back or exchaged on our captured military. But soldiers and officers, who survived this "green corridor" said they have other captured "Russians". Who they were - volunteers or "vacationers", or regulars ? Unknown. About casualties. What do you means - overall from 6th Aug - start of battle, including attempt of breackthrough of encirclement or casualties during 29-30th Aug during "green corridor" passing and hunting for dispersed soldiers ?

@DreDay Enemy forces in Ilovaisk were mixed - locals and Russian volunteers. Later some "vacationers" have been added. As minimum two of them from VDV, where captured during urban combat. Story about this "honor leaving" to this time covered by fog and classified documents. But question about this were solving on highest military level. Russia wants complete disarming, Ukrainian side wanted "honor leaving" with all weapons and guaranties. UKR troops has some number of captured Russian regulars and this allow to make own denand. Our general staff also protracted negotiatins and with hurry gathered units, which could to make a hole in the pocket. First attempt was conducted 27th or 28th Aug, but two companies, which even havn't maps lost on unfamiliar terrain were dispersed by enemy artillery strike and BMD attack. Only battalion of 72nd brigade and part of 79th airmobile brigade were fresh and could by ready in nearest time. But later became clear, that paratroopers can arrive only on 2-3 Sep, commander of 72nd battalion actullaly made a sabotage and foiled own task - battalion even didn't arrive on line of advance. UKR and Russain General staffs made agreement about "green corridor" for troops and vehicles, but suddenly in the night on 29th Aug Russians have changed own conditions and returned to "disarm and leave". Army General V.Muzhenko, chief of staff, have direct communication with general Khomchak, wich commands under remains of sector "B" troops and volunteer units in Ilovaisk. He emphatically recommended to Khomchak divide all troops on small parties and to break through when night will fall. But Khomchak said, he do not ready to take responsibility for this. Then Muzhenko said that because situation is critical, he can't to order something to Khomchak, which locates there and watchs situation with own eyes and let Khomchak will assume a decision according of current situation. So Khomchak assumed to drive through "green corridor". He made a deal with Russians - at dawn UKR forces will line up in two columnes and with shrouded main weapons on armor proceed to Novokaterynivka village, where have to give Russian POWs back and go out from encirclement. But when morning of 29th became, in 6:00 Russians sent a truce envoy which transfered to Khomchak "disarm and leave" demand. What happened further is not clear, Russians under various prtexts were shifting time of moving start all farther and farther. Later we knew that in this time Russian troops hurriedly dug in along our rotes. In 8:15 Russian vehicles with white flags leaded our columnes, but through several kilomiters its sharpely have jerked to own positions and our columns turned out under fire... In Dnipro city since that masacre have burried unrecognized several dozens of bodies. Some of them belongs to Russian regular and volunteers POWs killed by own fire. Russian command has sacrifiсed them in order to destroy UKR forces.

Thanks! About difficulty - all depends how much troops will be on the map. Historicaly its wasn't so much.

More real opportunity is BTR-3DA. But who knows?..

Spartak has main positions from were DNR forces attacked and shelled terminals. As well as monastery-fortified point in Vesele SW from trminals. To cut it or not - all depend from what player wants - historical scenario, or just "scramble in airport-type area". I have plans to make completely historical ATO campaign (or set of campaigns) for real maniacs, when module(s) will be issued - and also encounter with map editor limitation. Many of real ATO scenarios demand VERY wide spaces and not fit in allowed map dimensions. I don't know yet how to resolve this problem. Alas, I can't play your scenario, my integrated Intel video just will melt down %)

Despite on storyline is fictional, TO&E builds acording to real conditions. Of course, first set of basegame equipment has some "fantasy" units, but it was forming in 2011-2012. Next module will be more close to reality.

Very sad to hear this, this issue was marked like "fixed in 2.00". I hope, next time BF will fix it REALLY. Due to producing of Kvitnyk was stopped in 2014, and only several times it was used in initial phase of war, number of this ammunition was shorted and remained only for 2S19.