Cid250 Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 Just 1 screen shot... Something of the allied side, please!. What about some shermans in the prairie?. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisND Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 Just 1 screen shot... Something of the allied side, please!. What about some shermans in the prairie?. That has inspired the first title for a Normandy scenario I make: "Little Panzer on the Prairie." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt Joch Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 Here you go: German BB Schleswig-Holstein shelling Westerplatte, september 1, 1939 German and Soviet troops shaking hands following the successful invasion of Poland. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pvt. Ryan Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 It looks like the German officer has his fingers crossed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 So this marks the start of WWII? The freestate of Danzig might beg to differ. Not to mention the minority(?) in Austria who were against annexation. The rape of Nanking was two years earlier. The world war appears to have been well under way by 1939, the Polish invasion only marks the date the allies realized that it was. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Götz von Berlichingen Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 So this marks the start of WWII? The freestate of Danzig might beg to differ. Not to mention the minority(?) in Austria who were against annexation. The rape of Nanking was two years earlier. The world war appears to have been well under way by 1939, the Polish invasion only marks the date the allies realized that it was. There has always been conflicts around the globe at any one time! The invasion of Poland which prompted the British and the French (and their respective collonies and dominions) to declare war on Germany made it officially a WORLD WAR. Prior to this event I would describe the other events you mentioned as localised conflicts. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixxkiller Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 I dont know if this is a date anyone should celebrate.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Other Means Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 It looks like the German officer has his fingers crossed. Just think. If the Russian officer had said "No backsies" it could have all been avoided. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 There has always been conflicts around the globe at any one time! The invasion of Poland which prompted the British and the French (and their respective collonies and dominions) to declare war on Germany made it officially a WORLD WAR. Prior to this event I would describe the other events you mentioned as localised conflicts. Although, if we wanted to get really pedantic (and why wouldn't we?) still at that point it was more like France and Commonwealth vs. Germany. You don't call the invasion of Iraq Third World War just because countries around the world joined the operations. It REALLY turned global in 1941, with Barbarossa, Pearl Harbor and Afrika Korps. This global phase ended in spring 1945, after that it was a more localized World vs. Japan match. But I think the name 'World War' was first applied to this war because it was again the Anglo-French alliance against Germany-Austria, and there could only be one "Great War". So it wasn't even meant to make sense at first other than for propaganda ("see, it's the Kaiser's Huns coming again! buy bonds!"). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steiner14 Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 I dont know if this is a date anyone should celebrate.... IMO absolutely. The hundreds of murdered Germans and the thousands in polish concentration camps and the tens of thousands Germans under Polish occupation were glad, that that the Wehrmacht finally was coming to help them. That certain forces in Britain and France turned this Polish-German war into a European war, and later, that the same forces in Wall Street turned it into a World War, doesn't change anything of the just and long overdue attack on Poland. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 Oh yes, none of it was Hitler's fault, he was a pacifist and Germany was only defending itself. It was a Jewish conspiracy all along. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf66 Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 Everyone reaped what they sowed ....... except the US, they only joined to bring in the harvest in Europe after the others had bled out .... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cid250 Posted September 8, 2009 Author Share Posted September 8, 2009 I was asking just for a screenshot... and all this stuff discussed here, has no sense. We only have a screenshot of a Tiger... and will be nice to have one of a Sherman. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Other Means Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 IMO absolutely. The hundreds of murdered Germans and the thousands in polish concentration camps and the tens of thousands Germans under Polish occupation were glad, that that the Wehrmacht finally was coming to help them. That certain forces in Britain and France turned this Polish-German war into a European war, and later, that the same forces in Wall Street turned it into a World War, doesn't change anything of the just and long overdue attack on Poland. All it needs is a laugh track. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 I was asking just for a screenshot... and all this stuff discussed here, has no sense. We only have a screenshot of a Tiger... and will be nice to have one of a Sherman. Enjoy! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scipio Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 IMO absolutely. The hundreds of murdered Germans and the thousands in polish concentration camps and the tens of thousands Germans under Polish occupation were glad, that the Wehrmacht finally was coming to help them. That certain forces in Britain and France turned this Polish-German war into a European war, and later, that the same forces in Wall Street turned it into a World War, doesn't change anything of the just and long overdue attack on Poland. I have no idea what kind of stuff you're smoking, but you had defenetly to much of it! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 It's just that Steiner14's a German National Socialist. No, I'm not kidding. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethaface Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 It's just that Steiner14's a German National Socialist. No, I'm not kidding. Heh, could have been sure there was some kind of sarcasm in his post. Well if any other then Hitler did it one could say that East Prussia was occupied by the Polish. But then you are fishing up some history there, because the Prussians conquered it from [...] If our dear Steiner14 really can't see the evil parts of the Werhmacht under Hitler, I guess he's not only a National Socialist, but also blind and deaf 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethaface Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 By the way, the mother of my grandfather (whom i've never known unfortunately) was from Konigsberg East-Prussia and considered herself German, orso have I heard. I have met her once but unfortunately she was demented at that time and I was 5 or something. I remember I didn't like her Not that I think that Kalinigrad should now belong to Germany, it is an interesting fact. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cid250 Posted September 9, 2009 Author Share Posted September 9, 2009 Enjoy! Umm desert cammo in normandy?. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonS Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 Although, if we wanted to get really pedantic (and why wouldn't we?) still at that point it was more like France and Commonwealth vs. Germany. Yeah, but there was fighting all round the world (albeit that that outside Europe was rather small scale). I've heard the Napoleanic War described as the first World War (note the capitalisation) for very much that reason. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonS Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 It's just that Steiner14's a German National Socialist. No, I'm not kidding. Oh. Oh dear. Can we point and laugh at the freak now? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmar Bijlsma Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 Well, arguing with him using facts would certainly do no good, if that is truly his view on what led to the hostilities between Poland and Germany. I too thought he was being sarcastic, and still cling to hope that it doesn't reflect his actually held views. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt Joch Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 I've heard the Napoleanic War described as the first World War (not the capitalisation) for very much that reason. well, the Seven Year's war was also referred to as a world war and I'm sure we could find a quote that said the same thing about the war of the Spanish Succession. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonS Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 Er, sure. But doesn't that all rather reinforce the point that WWII was in fact WWII prior to the entry of Japan and the US? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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