Webwing Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 They are coming soon to CM:SF! http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=bZf3HkT-1XA&sdig=1 - 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Other Means Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 Different firing sound than the M1, seems flatter. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delta228 Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 Awosme, this is what I am most looking forward to in the Brits Module!!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Eddie- Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 Oooooh right! The sound does seem more like a pop than a bang. Can't wait for the British Forces module:D 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandur Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 more uber tanks!? well than, alright however where is the long missing cover armor arc. hope the brits bring one in, could make me buy the module even after i decided not to buy it already. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Different firing sound than the M1, seems flatter. Weren't they talking about HEP-T or squash-head rounds? Those rounds perform best when fired at the gun's absolute minimum muzzle velocity. That might explain the flatter-sounding BANG. I understand the 105mm HEP-T round being fired by Stryker MGS produces less muzzle energy than even the 105mm old smoke round! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dischord Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 more uber tanks!? well than, alright however where is the long missing cover armor arc. hope the brits bring one in, could make me buy the module even after i decided not to buy it already. I hope you aren't implying that such game improvements will be held back for ppl who don't buy the new modules. My understanding is that any improvements to the existing game engine would be shared with all people, while new mods bring new content only. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingknives Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 dischord is correct. Any improvement to the engine will be included in a patch. You only need to buy the module if you want the new vehicles/equipment 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Eddie- Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 What is it the barrel is doing after it fires? It seems as though it takes the shot, recoils and then returns to some kind of default position. I don't know if this is for loading purposes or what. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delta228 Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 eddie, that is strange, the barrel raises a bit after the recoil. Never heard of that before. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingknives Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Yes, it is for loading. A 120mm ordnance is very big and heavy bit of kit. What you don't want is for it to be bouncing around on the stabiliser whilst you are sticking rounds into the breech, so after firing it resets to a set position for ease of reloading. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Eddie- Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Aaaah, right. Thanks for the answer. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Other Means Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Yes, it is for loading. A 120mm ordnance is very big and heavy bit of kit. What you don't want is for it to be bouncing around on the stabiliser whilst you are sticking rounds into the breech, so after firing it resets to a set position for ease of reloading. Is that just a set elevation? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 The Russian tanks all do the same too, returning to a 'neutral' position for the T72 autoloader. The barrel really elevates on the old T62 for the simple reason that the tank rounds are just too long to load at horizontal with such a small turret ring diameter! The barrel (theoretically) snaps automatically to its original lay after loading. Problems with accurately adjusting fire between shots was a criticism of old Soviet era tanks because of it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Eddie- Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 I was going to say, having to adjust back on to target after a reload must be a pain, but I suppose every tank makes that sacrifice while reloading. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingknives Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 A set elevation with the stabiliser off, AIUI. If the gunner is using his primary sight, that is independent of the gun, so he can carry on laying on target. If he is using TOGS then that will slow the engagement. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Eddie- Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Good job you're making the British Forces module:p (I think) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flanker15 Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 I assume they're preparing the guns for 120mm unrifled ammo? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonS Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 All ammo is unrifled. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flanker15 Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 UK tanks have rifled barrels to allow HESH shells to be fired. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSX Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 This one is good for the sound and a quick tip on how to make a smokescreen. http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=xBtwSoyW2eo&feature=related 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
costard Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 I'm curious - In the first clip the shot is followed by a second puff of smoke(?) from the barrel. Is this a cleaning system like that used by naval guns - a blast of inert gas (usually nitrogen) to clear the barrel of debris? It might make sense to increase the life of the rifled barrel... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingknives Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 It's the fume extractor - some gas is redirected to ensure that the combustion products are pushed out the front of the barrel rather than back into the fighting compartment when the breech is opened. It uses the gas from the propellant rather than an additional supply. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Dave Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Interesting thread Always nice to know what is 'really' going on under the hood. Cheers 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 That's what that mid-barrel bulge/can thing is. As the round passes down the barrel the pressure drops in barrel-mounted the fume extractor can. Once the round is 'expelled' the pressure in the can equalizes, drawing air away from the breech when the casing gets ejected. I don't think many tanks have an 'active' blown-air bore exacuation device attached. The Sheridan and M60A2 used an active blower because in tests unexpelled burning propellant tended to drip back into the fighting compartment! :eek: [EDIT] Dang, flamingknives got in first with an answer... AGAIN! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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