Battlefront.com Posted August 24, 2007 Share Posted August 24, 2007 Hi all, After waiting for nearly 4 weeks Charles' brand new system arrived yesterday with Vista, AMD Athlon, and nVidia 8800 installed. He fired it up today and guess what? Great framerates. This is not what we expected nor what we wanted to see since we know for sure some of you guys are having difficulties with your cards. Unfortunately, until we can isolate what combo of things is causing the problem with framerates we're not going to be able to fix it. Therefore, we're spending the weekend trying to break Charles' brand new computer If you are experiencing very slow framerates with an nVidia card, please post your specs here: Operating system (make sure to specify the SPECIFIC flavor of XP or Vista) Processor (brand, speed, and # of processors) RAM nVida card model nVidia driver version It would also help to know what your Combat Mission graphics settings are in the Options panel. Thanks! Steve 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelmia Posted August 24, 2007 Share Posted August 24, 2007 Windows XP Media Center edition version 2002 sevice pack 2 Pentium 830d dual core 2 gigs RAM 2 nVidia 7800 GTX cards SLI forceware 162.18 fastest/fastest on settings Not terrible frames, but much worse than I would expect. Really can't play on any of the higher settings due to lag. Horrific multiplayer lag, maybe related? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battlefront.com Posted August 24, 2007 Author Share Posted August 24, 2007 Just wanted to say that after our last discussion about the lag I had some guys test TCP/IP half way around the world and there was no lag. I'm not saying that there isn't anything wrong with CM:SF, but we've found no smoking gun. That's a little off topic for this thread, but just wanted to get back to you on that one since I said we'd look into it. I'll see what I can do about this though. I've got at least the start of an idea Steve 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogue187 Posted August 24, 2007 Share Posted August 24, 2007 Windows XP Home Edition Version 2002 servive pack 2 Intel Pentium Core 2 duo 6600@ 2.40 ghz 2 gigs RAM 1 nVidia 8800 GTS I downloaded the lateset drives the day the game released, but I don't know where to look to see what drives I have. Hope this is at least some help. Edit: In game settings Display: Desktop V-Sync: Off 3D Models: Balanced 3D Texture: Balanced Antialias: Off High Priorty: On [ August 24, 2007, 11:36 PM: Message edited by: rogue187 ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piecekeeper Posted August 24, 2007 Share Posted August 24, 2007 Operating system : win xp 32-bit sp2 home edition Processor: 2 pentium 4 3.2 ghz RAM: 2ghz ddr2 nVida card model: geforce 6800 256mb nVidia driver version: 162.18 Graphics are fine but ive experienced mouse lagging in every setting 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stryker Posted August 24, 2007 Share Posted August 24, 2007 Vista32 Business 2GB RAM 8800GTS driver v. 162.22 1920x1200 resolution Core 2 6700 @ 2.66 GHz nVidia Control panel options are at the DEFAULT OPTIONS: Vert sync OFF 3D Model Quality: Best 3D Texture Quality: Best Anti Alias: On High Priority: ON Using FRAPS: Battle: Al Hawl On start of battle I scroll around and get 8-20FPS with some lag at times. Mouse is somewhat slow and mushy. Lowering resolution to 1024x768 has little impact on FPS. *Note that shadows are OFF because they make infantry in certain terrain invisible and are non-existent anyway. (As of 1.02 & 162.22, I updated both at the same time) [ August 24, 2007, 05:28 PM: Message edited by: Stryker ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_in_texas Posted August 25, 2007 Share Posted August 25, 2007 Operating System: Win XP 32-bit SP2 Media Center edition, Version 2002 Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad @ 3.2GHz (overclocked) RAM: 4GB DDR2 SDRAM @ 667MHz nVidia card model: dual GeForce 8800 GTX 768MB nVidia driver version: 6.14.10.9794 A couple issues, including: - slow framerates - intermittent flashes of black on parts of landscape - targeting arc does not indicate line-of-sight blockage - when replaying, wall/building rubble/damage is already showing before it actually occurs - occasional 'floating' infantry which glide along ground - excessive camera shaking when viewing an explosion up close Mike 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlapHappy Posted August 25, 2007 Share Posted August 25, 2007 Mike I have the Quad Core chip in my system. Just wanted to report for you (and others) that I had some success using the MS Hotfix for multi-core processors. Here's what I found: Before installing the hotfix: Typically, the 3rd core would peg out at maximum load (100% utilization) and the other cores would show no activity. System usage was shown at around 25%. After the fix: System usage remained at about 25%, BUT, the single core was no longer pegged and the processor load was more equally shared between the 4 cores. A pegged core indicator is bad because it can actually mean your system is getting overloaded and cannot operate efficiently because there is no more CPU overhead left. Also, without disabling the other 3 cores the game would lock up after selecting a unit after I started the mission. After hotfix, I have been able to play the game without disabling the other 3 cores. If you want to try the hotfix, search using keywords "ms hotfix" in the search feature. Someone posted a link to the pertinent Microsoft web page. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlapHappy Posted August 25, 2007 Share Posted August 25, 2007 BTW, I only have an 8600GTS card, but I sometimes get frame rates over 100 frames in certain conditions. Where I am having problems is when large maps are used in the mission and FPS drops to as low as 6-7 frames. BFC is addressing that issue with the 1.03 patch, apparently. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metalbrew Posted August 25, 2007 Share Posted August 25, 2007 WinXP Pro SP2 w/ current hotfixes AMD X2 4600+ w/ 2gb of RAM (2 core) MSI 8800GTS w/ 640mb w/ 162.18 drivers I only use 1 core via the single CPU affinity trick. I usually play with vsync off, balanced textures, best models, antialiasing enabled. I turn off shadows and flip trees on/off as needed for tactics. I usually see ~9 fps. I can get ~20 fps if I lower all of my settings to worst quality. I usually run FRAPS to check fps's but I've tried the game without FRAPS running and saw no difference. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlapHappy Posted August 25, 2007 Share Posted August 25, 2007 Additional Note: To achieve multi-core loading you must enable "threaded optimization" (or equivalent) in video card settings. For me, CPU utilization rises from around 25% to as high as 55%. I am able to get decent frame rates (except for really big maps) using "Best" quality even with 8x anti-aliasing enabled. I really like the way the models look with all the stuff cranked up! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peleprodigy Posted August 25, 2007 Share Posted August 25, 2007 windows xp w/ sp2 dual core 6600 2 gig 800 mhz ddr2 evga 680i lt mb evga 8800 gtx 768 mb soudblaster audigy 2 value 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imported_Major_Jerkov Posted August 25, 2007 Share Posted August 25, 2007 Can I ask what setting charles is using? Whats his display size and configuration of nvidia cp etc... Operating system (make sure to specify the SPECIFIC flavor of XP or Vista) Windows XP Pro SP2 Processor (brand, speed, and # of processors) Intel E6600, 2.4 ghz , C2D RAM 4 Gigs DDR2 nVida card model 8800 GTX 768 nVidia driver version 162.18 Ive tried many different configurations for nvidias control panel with similar or worse results. From everything on to everything off. Im currently running the game at 1920x1200. Ive played it at other resolution with minute increases or decreases. [ August 24, 2007, 09:40 PM: Message edited by: Major_Jerkov ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peleprodigy Posted August 25, 2007 Share Posted August 25, 2007 looks like and nvidia/intel dual core interaction of some sort 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imported_Major_Jerkov Posted August 25, 2007 Share Posted August 25, 2007 Originally posted by peleprodigy: looks like and nvidia/intel dual core interaction of some sort If you skip metalbrews config... maybe more. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hukka Posted August 25, 2007 Share Posted August 25, 2007 Windows XP SP2 Intel Core2Duo E6600 @ 3,4GHz 2 Gigs of RAM nVIDIA 8800 GTS w/ 162.18 Graphics settings doesn't seem to affect a lot. Now I'm having 'improved' settings, but I tried with the worst settings and still had poor framerates. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imported_Major_Jerkov Posted August 25, 2007 Share Posted August 25, 2007 Originally posted by Hukka: Windows XP SP2 Intel Core2Duo E6600 @ 3,4GHz 2 Gigs of RAM nVIDIA 8800 GTS w/ 162.18 Graphics settings doesn't seem to affect a lot. Now I'm having 'improved' settings, but I tried with the worst settings and still had poor framerates. Sorry for short derail... Ive dicked around with oc'ing but never really got into it too much. Im wondering how much improvement you got out of that appx 1ghz on a game like hl2(or any common software) over default settings... since this game is not a good comparison.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russkly Posted August 25, 2007 Share Posted August 25, 2007 Windows XP Pro 64 5.2 Build 3790 AMD Athlon 64 FX-62 Dual Core @ 2.8GHz 2Ghz RAM nVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS w. 162.18 Settings all maxed out @ "Best" or "Better" with AA @ 4x and AF @ 16x. Looks great and no hangs after disabling one of the processors in the "Set Affinity" dialogue. No MS Hotfix applied, becasue I was unsure about changing the Registry. Appreciate this doesn't give you much info. R 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sotoro Posted August 25, 2007 Share Posted August 25, 2007 Intel Core 2 CPU 6400@ 2.13Ghz 2GB Ram Geforce 8800GTX Driver version: 163.44 Vista 32bit OPTIONS: Vert sync ON 3D Model Quality: Best 3D Texture Quality: Best Anti Alias: On High Priority: ON Result: 7-10 fps 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The DesertFox Posted August 25, 2007 Share Posted August 25, 2007 Hi! A lot of performance results are posted here: http://www.battlefront.com/cgi-bin/bbs/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=52;t=002646 My own results: CMSF Options: Display: 1600x1200 Vert Synch: Off 3D Model: Better 3D Texture: Best Anti-Alias: On High Priority: On Test Setting: When Allah's Fist is loaded as the Blue Player, looking down the long dimension of the map. VISTA Ultimate 64bit (1600x1200) ASUS P5BL2 MoBo Core2Duo E6300 @ 2.4 Ghz 3.0GB Ram (DDR2 PC 6400) Nvidia 7950GT (512MB Vram) Forceware 163.44 4 FPS !!! 15 FPS with "threaded optimisation = off" VISTA Ultimate 32bit (1600x1200) ASUS P5B Deluxe Wifi MoBo Core2Duo E6600 @ 3.0 Ghz 4.0GB Ram (DDR2 PC 6400) Nvidia 8800GTS (640MB Vram) Forceware 163.44 8 FPS !!! 8 FPS with "threaded optimisation = off" OT remark: This machine scores the following World in Conflict Demo benchmark results: (1600x1200, very high setting: Average 23, Min 13, Max 44) VISTA Ultimate 32bit (1280x960) Fujitsu-Siemens AMILO Pa 1510 AMD Turion 64 X2 TL-52 @ 1.6 Ghz 1.0GB Ram (DDR2 533Mhz) ATI Mobility Radeon Xpress 1100 Catalyst 7.8 3 FPS !!! cheers Helge [ August 26, 2007, 10:48 PM: Message edited by: The DesertFox ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handihoc Posted August 25, 2007 Share Posted August 25, 2007 Win XP 32-bit SP2 Media Center edition, (build 2600) Core2Duo E6600 @ 2.4 Ghz ASUS® P5LD2 SE/C: DUAL DDR2, S-ATA, x16 VGA, 3 PCI/3 PCI-E MB 2 Gig CORSAIR DDR2 667MHz RAM Nvidia 7950GT (512MB Vram)FW 93.71 CMO CMC 19AW [Primary Monitor] (19.1"vis, November 2006) Philips 190S5 [secondary Monitor] (19.1"vis, s/n VN 078910, May 2005) OPTIONS: Vert sync ON 3D Model Quality: Best 3D Texture Quality: Best Anti Alias: On High Priority: OFF Everything pretty fine on smaller battles, but more and more mouse lag and jerky camera moves the bigger the battle gets. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steiner14 Posted August 25, 2007 Share Posted August 25, 2007 @BFC: maybe it would be helpful, if people would post the kind of software they hafe installed, too (i.e. Firewalls, Antivirs, other background tasks). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkmek Posted August 25, 2007 Share Posted August 25, 2007 I was thinking the same thing Steiner. We know Fraps seems to cause some problems. I have the mouse/camera lag issues if I run Fraps in the background. Wonder what other software could choke out CMSF? I have an nVidia chipset on my motherboard. Updating those drivers (sound in particular) got me going. AthlonXP 2800+ 1 gig Ram Win XP SP2 Leadtek 6600GT 128ram video using onboard sound 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peleprodigy Posted August 25, 2007 Share Posted August 25, 2007 once again lots and lots of c2duo/8800 problems...not many amd/880 problems. too bad battlefront only has an amd/88 combo... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
combatsf Posted August 25, 2007 Share Posted August 25, 2007 xp pro sp2 e6600 2400@3.3 8800 gts 640 driver 162.18 2gb 800@925 mhz dual poor framerates. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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