Wicky Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 I'd be surprised if there was an editable PDF version floating around. The publishers or who ever laid the book out would have, if using modern practice, used Quark or similar for layout and then exported a PDF to print. How did you draught/draft for publication? Word? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Livingston Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Lorrin and I were the publishers. We created the manuscript in Word Perfect, because that was what we had. I discarded the computer that may have had the files; that was quite a long time ago (12 years). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanir Ausf B Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 The first author, Lorrin Bird, is evidently alive, but I have lost contact with him. That would be great news if true. Word around these parts was that he died several years ago. I wonder why he disappeared. I do happen to have a pdf of the second edition but it is not editable, it's just scanned images of the pages. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wicky Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 We created the manuscript in Word Perfect, because that was what we had. I discarded the computer that may have had the files No back up on a CD or zip disk anywhere? I do happen to have a pdf of the second edition but it is not editable, it's just scanned images of the pages. That's a start as Acrobat Pro can OCR the text in a scanned PDF - not sure what it would make of the tables. That would allow the bulk of the text to be copy pasted into an editable format for laying out. Illustrations would need tidying up in Photoshop - and possibly rescanning from an original copy of the book. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Livingston Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 I located three paper copies that could be disassembled for re-copying, one of them the Second Edition (the only difference is 12 extra pages tacked on to the end). This would allow distribution of additional copies of the book, a second printing of the second edition. I searched for Lorrin Bird on the internet, found he had last posted to a baseball forum only two months ago. I've recently resumed war gaming again after a long hiatus; we use a placed shot system on scale models that allows platoon level games to be played shot-by-shot in a day. We play outdoors. Tank models are 1/35. I think another printing could be on the way . . . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongLeftFlank Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Scribd.com is a file sharing archive that contains pdfs on various topics, including military. Assuming Rexford has passed, the title is long out of print and didn't provide a significant income stream to his heirs, and the copyright owners are unlikely to pursue their rights vigorously, then it should be fair game to upload there for private use (not for profit purposes). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Livingston Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Scribd.com is a file sharing archive that contains pdfs on various topics, including military. Assuming Rexford has passed, the title is long out of print and didn't provide a significant income stream to his heirs, and the copyright owners are unlikely to pursue their rights vigorously, then it should be fair game to upload there for private use (not for profit purposes). Lorrin (aka Rexford) has not passed. He and I are joint copyright holders. I think I'll go the standard paper book format. I'm preparing for a third printing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanir Ausf B Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Glad to hear. I'd buy a copy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambler Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 Yes, let us know when it gets printed. I'd buy one as well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwolf Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 I advise everybody to tread carefully here. Simply going ahead breaking the copyright isn't good practice. At the very least his window (if any) needs to be consulted and the rights acquired (hopefully for making it public domain) and according to my copy Robert Livingston shares the copyright. And I would be the happiest person learning that Rexford has not passed. On the other hand I can't imagine that somebody doesn't correct announcements of his own death for 4 years. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Livingston Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Redwolf, never fear, no copyrights will be broken or disregarded, and all evidence points to the continued survival of Mr. Lorrin Rexford Bird. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erwin Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 "his window (if any) needs to be consulted..." Why does one need to consult his window? For full transparency? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwolf Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 Stupid no-editing-allowed forum. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Robert, Welcome aboard! Glad to hear your (jointly and severally) , much in demand book will be reissued and that Lorrin is still with us. Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animosity242 Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Any word on the reprinting of the book? I'm looking forward to it! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 animosity242, Welcome aboard! MANY are looking forward to it--with good reason. It's a tremendous read! Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tdeuce82 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 I, too, am very interested in purchasing a copy of this book 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Tdeuce82, Welcome aboard! I really do hope the book is republished. It's wonderful if you are into AFVs and armored warfare. There's nothing I know of like it. This, though, is a step in the right direction. I glanced through one a long time ago at a Washington, D.C. bookstore, and I was pretty impressed by what was said and how the author said it. http://openlibrary.org/works/OL3293572W/Guns_mortars_and_rockets Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwolf Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 I'm still calling BS on this one. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animosity242 Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 I'm still calling BS on this one. I'm beginning to think the same thing... Anyone have a digital copy they want to share? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animosity242 Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 animosity242, Welcome aboard! MANY are looking forward to it--with good reason. It's a tremendous read! Regards, John Kettler Thanks John! I've been playing Combat Mission since about 2001, I just never joined the boards. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwolf Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 I think it is time to contact relatives of what was listed as copyright holders in the book and ask for permission to re-publish, either for money or maybe public domain, or (my favorite) cons up a one-time payment for release into the public domain. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animosity242 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 I think it is time to contact relatives of what was listed as copyright holders in the book and ask for permission to re-publish, either for money or maybe public domain, or (my favorite) cons up a one-time payment for release into the public domain. From what I've found, Overmatch press lists to a personal residence in New York. I did receive this Email from RLivingston yesterday though: I've been unable to locate the other author (Lorrin R. Bird) but I think it is time to move ahead and reprint the book. Thanks for your interest. Robert L. On Nov 21, 2012, at 7:02 AM, animosity242 @ Battlefront Forum wrote: > This is a message from animosity242 at Battlefront Forum ( http://www.battlefront.com/community/index.php ). The Battlefront Forum owners cannot accept any responsibility for the contents of the email. > > To email animosity242, you can use this online form: > http://www.battlefront.com/community/sendmessage.php?do=mailmember&u=34910 > > OR, by email: > mailto:animosity242@yahoo.com > > This is the message: > > Any word on the republishing? I'm itching for a copy... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wicky Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 There's a pdf version online of a roughly scanned copy. I won't post a link but if you search you can find it. I'm the co-author of the book. Any luck finding a copy? I have only a single copy of the second edition. Can anyone get me a pdf file? The idea is to republish the book, with some changes and additions. The first author, Lorrin Bird, is evidently alive, but I have lost contact with him. Thanks RL 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animosity242 Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 There's a pdf version online of a roughly scanned copy. I won't post a link but if you search you can find it. Sending a PM. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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