flamingknives Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 Really? I disagree. I regularly go to a range and shoot small, round, paper targets. The rifles I use are not intended for home defence or any such rubbish. Some could not be used as such, save as a club. They are target rifles, with the sole purpose of shooting a small, round, paper target. Plenty of people like the discipline and control of firing at small, round targets on a range. Perhaps it's a British thing, but I view someone who owns a gun with the sole purpose of blowing someone else away somewhat distasteful. But I don't pretend that they do not exist. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingknives Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 Really? I disagree. I regularly go to a range and shoot small, round, paper targets. The rifles I use are not intended for home defence or any such rubbish. Some could not be used as such, save as a club. They are target rifles, with the sole purpose of shooting a small, round, paper target. Plenty of people like the discipline and control of firing at small, round targets on a range. Perhaps it's a British thing, but I view someone who owns a gun with the sole purpose of blowing someone else away somewhat distasteful. But I don't pretend that they do not exist. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingknives Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 Really? I disagree. I regularly go to a range and shoot small, round, paper targets. The rifles I use are not intended for home defence or any such rubbish. Some could not be used as such, save as a club. They are target rifles, with the sole purpose of shooting a small, round, paper target. Plenty of people like the discipline and control of firing at small, round targets on a range. Perhaps it's a British thing, but I view someone who owns a gun with the sole purpose of blowing someone else away somewhat distasteful. But I don't pretend that they do not exist. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixxkiller Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 There is no other reason to own a gun than to have it to blow someone else away. Thats what they were invented for and since they dont dispense candy, compute complex mathmatical calculations, end world hunger, or make Metallica sound as good as the 80's, that is still thier only purpose. And going to the range is fine, but in a combat situation you dont want to switch midway through from say a gun you are comfortable with to something that you cant hit the broadside of a barn with. So when on the range, use what you are planning to use if a situation arises. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixxkiller Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 There is no other reason to own a gun than to have it to blow someone else away. Thats what they were invented for and since they dont dispense candy, compute complex mathmatical calculations, end world hunger, or make Metallica sound as good as the 80's, that is still thier only purpose. And going to the range is fine, but in a combat situation you dont want to switch midway through from say a gun you are comfortable with to something that you cant hit the broadside of a barn with. So when on the range, use what you are planning to use if a situation arises. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixxkiller Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 There is no other reason to own a gun than to have it to blow someone else away. Thats what they were invented for and since they dont dispense candy, compute complex mathmatical calculations, end world hunger, or make Metallica sound as good as the 80's, that is still thier only purpose. And going to the range is fine, but in a combat situation you dont want to switch midway through from say a gun you are comfortable with to something that you cant hit the broadside of a barn with. So when on the range, use what you are planning to use if a situation arises. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homo ferricus Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 let me go ahead and clear this up for you, flamingknives, "Plenty of people like the discipline and control of firing at small, round targets on a range." to which i definitely agree. Just because they were invented for one thing doesn't mean they shouldn't be used for another, gunpowder was originally invented by the Chinese in the 9th century for use as fireworks to "scare away demons" and make for a crowd pleaser, yet the Europeans took it and used it to make weapons. Hell, condoms were invented to prevent women from getting pregnant during sexual intercourse, yet during WWII soldiers used them to keep crap from getting into the barrels of their guns. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homo ferricus Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 let me go ahead and clear this up for you, flamingknives, "Plenty of people like the discipline and control of firing at small, round targets on a range." to which i definitely agree. Just because they were invented for one thing doesn't mean they shouldn't be used for another, gunpowder was originally invented by the Chinese in the 9th century for use as fireworks to "scare away demons" and make for a crowd pleaser, yet the Europeans took it and used it to make weapons. Hell, condoms were invented to prevent women from getting pregnant during sexual intercourse, yet during WWII soldiers used them to keep crap from getting into the barrels of their guns. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homo ferricus Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 let me go ahead and clear this up for you, flamingknives, "Plenty of people like the discipline and control of firing at small, round targets on a range." to which i definitely agree. Just because they were invented for one thing doesn't mean they shouldn't be used for another, gunpowder was originally invented by the Chinese in the 9th century for use as fireworks to "scare away demons" and make for a crowd pleaser, yet the Europeans took it and used it to make weapons. Hell, condoms were invented to prevent women from getting pregnant during sexual intercourse, yet during WWII soldiers used them to keep crap from getting into the barrels of their guns. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londoner Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 Originally posted by flamingknives: Perhaps it's a British thing, but I view someone who owns a gun with the sole purpose of blowing someone else away somewhat distasteful. Hear hear. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londoner Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 Originally posted by flamingknives: Perhaps it's a British thing, but I view someone who owns a gun with the sole purpose of blowing someone else away somewhat distasteful. Hear hear. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londoner Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 Originally posted by flamingknives: Perhaps it's a British thing, but I view someone who owns a gun with the sole purpose of blowing someone else away somewhat distasteful. Hear hear. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudel.dietrich Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 I love going to the range and go regulary twice a week. It is also required for work so I make a hobby out of it. I am also a gun collector, some are just for looking at. Others are for range recreation. And I dont really buy the argument that firing one weapons makes you less of a marksmen with another. I rotate using all my weapons and shoot over 50 rounds from each, each week. And not to beat my own drum, but there is not much that makes my marksmenship suffer. I could be missing three fingers and have a glass eye and still shoot a small group with almost any weapon on earth. A new gun to me is like a new DVD movie, or a new book or new video game or a new car. I have my favourites and those that I know well and enjoy every time I watch/read/play/drive them. But I love shooting and love doing it with new weapons to experience their nuances and how different cultures and makers craft their weapons. So it is a hobby, and all hobbies require expense and change or else that hobby dies. And im not married. So I get to waste all my income on really unresponsible things and never have to justify it to anyone Unfortunatly im not in the income bracket to buys new cars as often as I buy DVDs and video games But I still enjoying driving different performance cars when I can and I think the analogy was apt. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudel.dietrich Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 I love going to the range and go regulary twice a week. It is also required for work so I make a hobby out of it. I am also a gun collector, some are just for looking at. Others are for range recreation. And I dont really buy the argument that firing one weapons makes you less of a marksmen with another. I rotate using all my weapons and shoot over 50 rounds from each, each week. And not to beat my own drum, but there is not much that makes my marksmenship suffer. I could be missing three fingers and have a glass eye and still shoot a small group with almost any weapon on earth. A new gun to me is like a new DVD movie, or a new book or new video game or a new car. I have my favourites and those that I know well and enjoy every time I watch/read/play/drive them. But I love shooting and love doing it with new weapons to experience their nuances and how different cultures and makers craft their weapons. So it is a hobby, and all hobbies require expense and change or else that hobby dies. And im not married. So I get to waste all my income on really unresponsible things and never have to justify it to anyone Unfortunatly im not in the income bracket to buys new cars as often as I buy DVDs and video games But I still enjoying driving different performance cars when I can and I think the analogy was apt. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudel.dietrich Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 I love going to the range and go regulary twice a week. It is also required for work so I make a hobby out of it. I am also a gun collector, some are just for looking at. Others are for range recreation. And I dont really buy the argument that firing one weapons makes you less of a marksmen with another. I rotate using all my weapons and shoot over 50 rounds from each, each week. And not to beat my own drum, but there is not much that makes my marksmenship suffer. I could be missing three fingers and have a glass eye and still shoot a small group with almost any weapon on earth. A new gun to me is like a new DVD movie, or a new book or new video game or a new car. I have my favourites and those that I know well and enjoy every time I watch/read/play/drive them. But I love shooting and love doing it with new weapons to experience their nuances and how different cultures and makers craft their weapons. So it is a hobby, and all hobbies require expense and change or else that hobby dies. And im not married. So I get to waste all my income on really unresponsible things and never have to justify it to anyone Unfortunatly im not in the income bracket to buys new cars as often as I buy DVDs and video games But I still enjoying driving different performance cars when I can and I think the analogy was apt. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acrashb Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 Originally posted by rudel.dietrich: Does Kimbler hand make their weapons? They hand-fit some or all models - not uncommon with high-end 1911's, since it's the only way the gun is going to shoot well (tight and even frame/slide interface for example). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acrashb Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 Originally posted by rudel.dietrich: Does Kimbler hand make their weapons? They hand-fit some or all models - not uncommon with high-end 1911's, since it's the only way the gun is going to shoot well (tight and even frame/slide interface for example). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acrashb Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 Originally posted by rudel.dietrich: Does Kimbler hand make their weapons? They hand-fit some or all models - not uncommon with high-end 1911's, since it's the only way the gun is going to shoot well (tight and even frame/slide interface for example). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acrashb Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 Originally posted by Sixxkiller: There is no other reason to own a gun than to have it to blow someone else away. Thats what they were invented for [...]Yada, yada. You might say the same thing about archery, javelin throwing, or fencing, which would further emphasize that you're flat-out wrong. For example, tell us how this makes a good defence tool: My second CCW is on the way - but I'm broad-minded enough to know that one can go to the range for the shear pleasure of getting a good group, slow-fire, at 25 yards or more. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acrashb Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 Originally posted by Sixxkiller: There is no other reason to own a gun than to have it to blow someone else away. Thats what they were invented for [...]Yada, yada. You might say the same thing about archery, javelin throwing, or fencing, which would further emphasize that you're flat-out wrong. For example, tell us how this makes a good defence tool: My second CCW is on the way - but I'm broad-minded enough to know that one can go to the range for the shear pleasure of getting a good group, slow-fire, at 25 yards or more. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acrashb Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 Originally posted by Sixxkiller: There is no other reason to own a gun than to have it to blow someone else away. Thats what they were invented for [...]Yada, yada. You might say the same thing about archery, javelin throwing, or fencing, which would further emphasize that you're flat-out wrong. For example, tell us how this makes a good defence tool: My second CCW is on the way - but I'm broad-minded enough to know that one can go to the range for the shear pleasure of getting a good group, slow-fire, at 25 yards or more. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixxkiller Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 Look I am not saying going to the range isnt fun. Just saying if you go to practice, do it right and for a purpose. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixxkiller Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 Look I am not saying going to the range isnt fun. Just saying if you go to practice, do it right and for a purpose. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixxkiller Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 Look I am not saying going to the range isnt fun. Just saying if you go to practice, do it right and for a purpose. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtMuhammed Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 That would be a good one for defending against people who are really small. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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