Sgt Steiner Posted March 7, 2002 Share Posted March 7, 2002 Hi all Here is another little screenie from an ongoing CM Pbem. My Piat team had managed to get into surely the perfect firing posistion.......but......three Piat bombs later the Tiger turned and killed one of the team. Their being Green I guess didnt help their aim mind you at 14m they could have thrown the damn bomb !! Before anyone asks the Panzer Cmdr is ot a chain smoker that plume is from a earlier victim of this brute Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwacker Posted March 7, 2002 Share Posted March 7, 2002 I really like your road and sky mods - which ones are you using? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt Steiner Posted March 7, 2002 Author Share Posted March 7, 2002 Hi Kwacker Originally posted by Kwacker: I really like your road and sky mods - which ones are you using?The sky is from Maguas Normandy mod. I think the road is as well although it might be a modded version of his mod Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gyrene Posted March 7, 2002 Share Posted March 7, 2002 Missing a Tiger tank from 14m 3 times is pretty much BS to me, and it happens more than it should in the game. At 14m that Tiger's back side would pretty much fill up the field of view of the PIAT gunner in that direction, he would require skill to miss :mad: Gyrene [ March 07, 2002, 11:52 AM: Message edited by: Gyrene ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Radley Posted March 7, 2002 Share Posted March 7, 2002 Happens to me all the time, too. Even with regular troops they either overshoot or undershoot from ridiculously close range. Makes me want to scream at the monitor, "You could do more damage hitting it with your purse, Nancy-boy!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbaker59 Posted March 7, 2002 Share Posted March 7, 2002 I have the strangest luck with these things. I hit a moving Panther with a zook at 190 meters. My opposition wasn't amused. It was the Wiltz scn but I don't remeber the crew rating. Doubt it was very high though. Likewise I tend to get hit at long ranges. :mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbs Posted March 7, 2002 Share Posted March 7, 2002 From gbaker59: I have the strangest luck with these things. I hit a moving Panther with a zook at 190 meters. My opposition wasn't amused. Same here. In one game not long ago I hit and Killed TWO moving Shermans with the same Panzer shrek in the same turn (on consecutive shots). One was killed at 160 meters and the other at 195 meters. Some days you get the bear, and some days the bear gets you.............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Das Reich Posted March 7, 2002 Share Posted March 7, 2002 Originally posted by Gyrene: Missing a Tiger tank from 14m 3 times is pretty much BS to me, and it happens more than it should in the game. At 14m that Tiger's back side would pretty much fill up the field of view of the PIAT gunner in that direction, he would require skill to miss :mad: GyreneThink of the fear one would be facing in such a situation. Especially if it is a "green" troop. Knowing that you are behind the enemy, and cut off. Not knowing exactly what is coming right up behind you or on your flanks (assuming he allowed the enemy to by-psss him.) I would imagine he would fire off a round or two and get out as fast as possible. I could see someone missing, if they are new to battle. But, getting off 3 rounds from 14m and not hitting the panzer is rather fishy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Das Reich Posted March 7, 2002 Share Posted March 7, 2002 Originally posted by wbs: From gbaker59: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr /> I have the strangest luck with these things. I hit a moving Panther with a zook at 190 meters. My opposition wasn't amused. Same here. In one game not long ago I hit and Killed TWO moving Shermans with the same Panzer shrek in the same turn (on consecutive shots). One was killed at 160 meters and the other at 195 meters. Some days you get the bear, and some days the bear gets you..............</font> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAK Posted March 8, 2002 Share Posted March 8, 2002 Hello Gary, I have a question for you. Whose Tiger VIE is that? It is really great! Jake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Weiss Posted March 8, 2002 Share Posted March 8, 2002 If I'm not mistaken, that is Jorge MC's Tiger, available at Warfare HQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonS Posted March 8, 2002 Share Posted March 8, 2002 The team is in command too - what was the rating of the leader? JonS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAK Posted March 8, 2002 Share Posted March 8, 2002 Thanks Bruno! Jake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bry Barnard Posted March 8, 2002 Share Posted March 8, 2002 I've had a Bazooka miss a Panther side on at 5 metres. And I've got a picture of it if someone can give me a page to post it on. This guy could have reached out and touched the damn thing!! But it's strange how zooks and PIATs can hit at upto 200m. From the accounts I've read hitting anything over 50m was a sheer fluke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt Steiner Posted March 8, 2002 Author Share Posted March 8, 2002 Hi JonS Originally posted by JonS: The team is in command too - what was the rating of the leader? JonSI think he was bog standard with no bonus stats in command of a whole platoon of Green types. (Just checked he had a +1 Cmd Bonus nothing else) Thankfully the Tiger having turned to engage the Inf and Piat was brewed through turret rear on next turn by a Cromwell I raced forward to seize just this opportunity Cheers [ March 08, 2002, 07:35 AM: Message edited by: Gary Barr ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radar Posted March 8, 2002 Share Posted March 8, 2002 I've noticed that piats have an exagerated difficulty in hitting targets at a higher elevation than they are. This might be a problem for zooks also. Has anyone else noticed this? I've run a small test..not too conclusive, but it supports what I've seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted March 8, 2002 Share Posted March 8, 2002 It seems there's a hit probability curve with the PIAT. The optimal range feels like 60m or so, but get too close and the chance of a first round hit drops. At least that's how it feels. Missing from 15m? Maybe that's because being 15m from an exploding PIAT round would be suicide! Hell, I woudn't fire from 15m either! I have fired from too close from a tank too, which tends to cause the dreaded 'gun hit' dammage message Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chupacabra Posted March 8, 2002 Share Posted March 8, 2002 Originally posted by MikeyD: Missing from 15m? Maybe that's because being 15m from an exploding PIAT round would be suicide! Not really. Blast goes into the armor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted March 8, 2002 Share Posted March 8, 2002 Chupacabra writes: Blast goes into the armor. well... a shaped charge round may have a conical inner surface that focuses the blast (actually, the collapsed copper liner in most instances) but let's not forget it has an OUTER surface as well with a nice green-painted metal jacket. I'd hate to get whacked in the forehead by the remains of the PIAT tail fin comin' back at me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chupacabra Posted March 8, 2002 Share Posted March 8, 2002 Well, sure, neither would I...but I think if I were weighing my options between "one-in-a-million freak accident" and "not shoot the tank that's right there and wants to kill me", I'd take my chances with the PIAT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patgod Posted March 8, 2002 Share Posted March 8, 2002 i'm pretty sure you would have told whoever said "hey go run out into the open and play with that tiger" to go F*** himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Monkey! Posted March 9, 2002 Share Posted March 9, 2002 Does that picture represent something like trying to pull the Tiger's tail? :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingknives Posted March 9, 2002 Share Posted March 9, 2002 Well, it's a documented fact that the No4 SMLE got more accurate the further out it got, maybe this applies to all British weapons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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