Europa Posted August 30, 2004 Share Posted August 30, 2004 I've read accounts of armor firing up into the tree tops to create tree bursts. Is this modelled in CM as well or is it just artillery fire that creates this effect in wooded tiles? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spears Posted August 30, 2004 Share Posted August 30, 2004 test it 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Captain Posted August 30, 2004 Share Posted August 30, 2004 It's modelled and yes, treebursts do more damage to exposed troops in the woods. Oh, sorry, you were asking about armor cannon fire treebursts, no that is not modelled. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwolf Posted August 30, 2004 Share Posted August 30, 2004 Only indirect[EDITed to correct typo] fire and fire from onboard mortars get treebursts. The only direct fire thing is firing against the upper floor of a building, which creates a nice airburst for everybody around it (even in the house). [ August 31, 2004, 08:24 AM: Message edited by: Redwolf ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Europa Posted August 30, 2004 Author Share Posted August 30, 2004 damn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Other Means Posted August 30, 2004 Share Posted August 30, 2004 Originally posted by Redwolf: Only direct fire and fire from onboard mortars get treebursts. The only direct fire thing is firing against the upper floor of a building, which creates a nice airburst for everybody around it (even in the house). sorry Redwolf, do you mean to say indirect as your 2nd word? confused of Liverpool. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dschugaschwili Posted August 31, 2004 Share Posted August 31, 2004 Must be indirect. Otherwise redwolf's statement makes no sense and would be wrong anyway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joachim Posted August 31, 2004 Share Posted August 31, 2004 If a shot from a DF gun hits the trees, it might create an airburst: I remember 2 treebursts in the years since CMBO came out, both from IGs. One was a sIG firing from a higher elevation into a valley at long range. 2nd was a lIG from a small hill at 800m. I checked them several times and found no craters. The explosion graphics looked like treebursts. My conclusion is that if treetops get in the way of a shell, there is a chance for a treeburst. No matter which gun it is. It is just that DF usually aims at the base of a target. So treebursts are extremely rare Two facts that might influence the results: As the IGs are low velocity weapons with a high trajectory, they might actually come down in a steep angle. Their inaccuracy often results in shooting too high thus hitting the foilage instead of the target ground. I assume that when a round passes a certain height over trees there is a random dice roll for a treeburst. A steep angle might be necessary - or increase the probability. Gruß Joachim 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwolf Posted August 31, 2004 Share Posted August 31, 2004 Hm. A good test would be to put an sIG on a moutain and fire down into some woods. Charles introduced armor top hits in CMBB and CMAK, they were not in CMBO. Maybe the same code is in effect when doing "top hit" on woods and we do get airbursts now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melnibone Posted August 31, 2004 Share Posted August 31, 2004 Very recently I had a treeburst caused by direct Panther fire....with no great elevation difference...well that's certainly what it looked like to me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joachim Posted August 31, 2004 Share Posted August 31, 2004 I suspect that any round passing foilage level gets a dice roll for bursting.. Another test would be to area fire at the top of a steep cliff from below with HV guns. Or on a slight rise with woods behind it. Anything that ensures the trajectory crosses the foilage. ... but why test what you deem correct. I say it is in CMBB. Gruß Joachim 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted August 31, 2004 Share Posted August 31, 2004 Amazing how we can play this game for a million hours and still manage to discover cool new stuff! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinetree Posted August 31, 2004 Share Posted August 31, 2004 Originally posted by MikeyD: Amazing how we can play this game for a million hours and still manage to discover cool new stuff! Only a million? you newbie! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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