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Originally posted by Joe Shaw:

</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by MrPeng:

Jeeze, Joe Cain't ya read?

youse sure can type a lot now, but can yer bloomin read?

Sweet Emma 'tis but a mere technicality that our Daft King Meeks has yet to be coronated. He's the bloody King. No question. ... {snipped ... and loving it} ...

Peng

Oh he'll be bloody all right Peng (note you, I still bold your name, in honor of the traditions of the Peng Challenge Thread ... I am TRUE BLUE) ... bloody and with head bowed in defeat. Snipped for the sake of just aboot everyting

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Originally posted by Berlichtingen:

</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Joe Shaw:

WHO STANDS FOR THE CESSPOOL?

Shavian House

Clan OGSF

Boo-Radley House, House Boo, Croda House et al

Gaylord Focker

Wow Jow... Doesn't that just make you want to slit your own throat?</font>
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Originally posted by Joe Shaw:

Berli you saw fit to mock those who would stand with me in this matter. Yet they have ALL been here, serving the Peng Challenge Thread day in and day out. Stuggling to find that one gem of a post amongst the dross normally dredged up here. THEY have sought to make this a better place.

I think you may have been more effective by employing 1000 monkeys, buying them 1000 typewriters, and giving them 1000 years to produce that one gem.

Mace

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Peng spewed the following tripe, I've edited it because there might be children reading: Joe you live up to your namesake "McCarthy" tail gunner Joe (nb) with your secretiveness and calumny and insinuendo... Have I stopped bolding your name? NO. I have not. Do not act as if I have... ...{snipped} ... Olde Fowl Joe Just what sort of Justicar are you anyway?
Unbolded? No, but my point was that I UPHELD the traditions of the CessPool. I maintained respect for the Olde Ones even in the face of TWO OF YOU DENYING ME THRICE BEFORE THE COCKS CROWED ... well something like that anyway (No Bauhaus, see MALE chickens are sometimes called ... never mind).
Upholder of tradition. Well what aboot the Tradition - nay the VERY FOUNDATION of this thread inregards the despising of Canadians. You blow and whistle and holler aboot your sacred duty and your defense of the MBT and its Traditions Most of em made up sperm of the moment by you in a concubinal stenographic pornographic quadrophrenic frenzy no doubt, BUT WHAT EXACTLY DO YOU HAVE TO SAY ON THE VERY FOUNDING PRINCIPLE OF THIS, THE HOLEY MUTHA THREAD? DO YOU OR DO YOU NOT HATE Canadians, Joe? OUT with it.
Point the third, YOU and Berli have BOTH denied me that rank freely given in service to the CessPool ... why should you now expect me to uphold ANY of the traditions? I DO of course, I always will no matter my rank, title or lack thereof.

I have not proposed, indeed mandated, the elevation of a Pretender, an Apostate and an ABSENT ONE AT THAT as King! I have not flaunted my power (no damnit Bauhaus NOT that kind of flaunted ... and trust me, if it looks like that I wouldn't be calling it POWER ... no, I think that Mr Winky is appropriate for you, good choice) nor abused my station nor have I EVER failed to consistently follow the will of the Olde Ones.

As to your question regarding Canadians however ... my Mother-In-Law was a Canadian ... I trust THAT will establish my bona fides in this matter!

Joe

[ January 19, 2003, 01:35 AM: Message edited by: Joe Shaw ]

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Originally posted by Joe Shaw:

Berli you saw fit to mock those who would stand with me in this matter. Yet they have ALL been here, serving the Peng Challenge Thread day in and day out. Stuggling to find that one gem of a post amongst the dross normally dredged up here. THEY have sought to make this a better place. THEY have put in their time Berli ... AS HAVE YOU AND I. But Meeks (nb) ... what has HE done ... NOTHING.

Let him return, by all means allow him the privilege of returning to this community. But not as King Berli, NEVER as King.

Joe, Joe, Joe... I never mocked OGSF (about this anyway), but the others...

Yeah, they've been here day in and day out. Post after endless boring post. So what? Does sheer volumn of posting count for something? Hell, if that were true, Boo would be King (ouch, that hurt just saying it). By what you say, the Mutha Beautiful Peng hisself wouldn't belong here! I have yet to hear any of them cry out against Canada

Meeks shall be King. That is the unified mandate of the Olde Ones (and we bloody well seldom agree on anything). Meeks has given the breath of life to our dying and stagnant MBT, and for that reason alone he should recieve your support. But, if you see the need to continue your Civil War (e'en though the original reason does not exist), have at. like I said, it fills me with joy to see you as champion of chaos.

Oh, and I'll thank you never to compare you supporters to me again

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Roll was called:

Sir Joe Shaw...

Sir Pawbroon...

Sir Meeks...

Sir Mensch...

Freiherr Goanna...

Sir Madmatt...

Sir Lorak...

Sir Geire...

Sir Bauhaus...

Sir Andreas...

Sir Elvis...

Sir Hakko Ichiu...

Sir Moriarty...

Sir OGSF...

Sir Hiram...

Sir Stuka...

Sir Dalem...

Sir Yeknodathon...

(Gack)Sir MrSpkr...

My god, Dalem was right all along. What fresh hell is this?
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Originally posted by Berlichtingen:

...the position of Justicar is an eclesiastic position.

[... and from the depths of the paddock, something grey and heavy is brooding behind a wintry bush... and with each development the faint scribbling of crayon can be heard among "tut-tuts" and "oh, I wouldn't do that" and "ooooh... nice, smack 'im with a carrot, laddie" and "*snigger* *scribble* *scribble*". And when all is written, with great solemnity and much intense heaving and scratching the bush parts to reveal a gloom-laden snout]

I just wanted to say that the Justicar being in an elastic position... *sniff*

[thinks a bit]

... and I suppose that means grotesque body contortions...

[thinks some more]

... will need a good twang. Musical Justicar, pathetic.

Don't mind me... life's awful enough as it is without Kings and cabbages and Justicars attempting yoga. And I suppose if there was a King, I'd have to find a present and that's very bothersome.

*sniff* I'll write that down, in me thickest crayon, to remember.. NOT that I'm likely to forget *scribble* *scribble* "Meeks... bother... Nobbit body search, check gums and capacity"

... oh, well, don't mind me, no one does, I'll just stand here and stay damp.

Yeknod o' tha Thistle and Defender of the Paddock

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Originally posted by Joe Shaw:

it will be shortly followed by an abdication ...

YK2:

Isn't that a task more akin to the Lady of the Lake then?

I will not stand, however, for the elevation of an unrepentent Apostate who has not been here in service of the CessPool to the rank of King. It is neither fitting nor proper.

YK2:

He has been here, just laying low beneath the murky waters of the Pool

But Meeks (nb) ... what has HE done ... NOTHING.

YK2:

His return got this lot up and running, I mean if it wasn't for the raising of Meeks then even you Joe wouldn't be posting so profusely. This incarnation of the MBT is almost at an end after only a mere few days, THAT IS WHAT HE HAS DONE.

Let him return, by all means allow him the privilege of returning to this community. But not as King Berli, NEVER as King.

YK2:

He will be KING, you of course will mumble and grumble over that till hell freezes over... Isn't that just GRAND?

Long Live the Cesspool It's ALIVE AND KICKING...

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Originally posted by Yeknodathon:

... oh, well, don't mind me, no one does, I'll just stand here and stay damp.

Yeknod o' tha Thistle and Defender of the Paddock

*Throws a nice warm towel to Yeknod *

When your done drying yourself off there's a nice clean and dry Paddock over yonder.

Plenty of fresh carrots too, help yourself.

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Originally posted by Joe Shaw:

As to your question regarding Canadians however ... my Mother-In-Law was a Canadian ... I trust THAT will establish my bona fides in this matter!

Joe

Once a cry-baby, always a crybaby. Joe. OF COURSE we have reccommended that you be removed from office. We also think that your orifices should be removed, with malice aforethought and alacrity. It is, in fact, my JOB to despise all authority everywhere Joe. It's Traditional. And we can't have anything untraditional now can we you smelly bastard. No we can't. So do as I demanded three posts ago and SHUT UP. A lot.

As for your Canadian Mother in law...well, that's tough noogies isn't it? YOU chose to join a family with such a burden, didn't you? Yes you did. You won't get very far with pity the poor orphan wot slew his parents tale of woe in this particular area.

Bugger. that's more posts in one night than I've done in the last 4 months!!! Hoorah for Meeks!!! I'm giving him a big wet sloppy kiss next time I see him.

Peng

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Originally posted by MrSpkr:

So that would make the sidelines crew, what? Geier and the Old Firm, Leeo, and myself?

Anyone else looking to sit this one out and watch them tear each other apart?

Steve

Well I finds meself in a "delicate position", so to speak. I had found a spot on the front bench with the Stenographers and promptly got ticked off cos a few of them looked sort of - mannish like. (Not that there's a lot wrong with that. Maybe)

And to cap it all off, The Eevil One is my grandliege......shudder.

Anyway. YK2 had this REALLY short skirt on..... where was I ?? Oh yes - looking for a FENCE I was...an' I found this nice looking paling fence, green it was. But the damn thing was too high to climb. So I went around the bend and found a nice pale pink coloured one. Nice and solid it is. You can share it if you like.

Noba.

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Originally posted by Berlichtingen:

On another topic... So, Joe, you wants to take Vadr as Squire (happy birthday Vadr)... to this I say you nay. Cast leave that one in the cask for a bit more... it needs aging

Originally posted by Joe Shaw:

p.s. Berli in response to your rejection of my Squire, I have every right to take Vadr to Squire and I choose to exercise that right.

BRZKKTTT!!! WRONG, Joe! As Inquisitor General of the Cesspool, I cannot allow such flagrant violation of the Sacred Rules of this Thread (and ones you yourself have oft quoted) to be disregarded.

Vadr (snb and Happy Belated Birthday) SHALL NOT be your squire at this time as his elevation to Squire has been rejected by an Olde One, as is their right. You can pout and preen and give spittle-laced rants to the masses (note to self -- treat Joe's speeches like a Gallagher concert -- avoid at all costs and if unable to avoid, never sit in the first five rows) all you want, but that shall NOT change the fact Vadr is currently nothing more than a lickspittle Serf.

Someone has to hold even the Justicar himself to the Rules -- its a good thing the Inquisitor General is on the job.

Steve

[ January 19, 2003, 02:31 AM: Message edited by: MrSpkr ]

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Originally posted by Berlichtingen:

Nice little war brewing here. Warms my heart to see that.... And Aussie Jeff! You'll await your Sire's pleasure before declaring for one side or t'other, or you'll get a reminder of the Boot!.

BUGGER Das Boot!

*Unsheaths weapon of mass destruction..... lays gleaming "Made in Taiwan" genuine clone brand <U>Excalibur MKIII</U> sword on table and begins contemplating where the future lies..*

AJ

Kanigget In Abeyance

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... and I wouldn't really want to twang the Justicar on account that guitar picks would have to be a certain size so as to pluck and lever lips with vigorous strumming... and one couldn't predict a constant tension... and I should think that consistent tension is very important playing a Justicar... one wouldn't want a flabby Justicar with inconsistently tuned lips otherwise one might lose not only yer guitar pick but half yer arm as well... *sniff*... don't suppose he's wanting a battle donkey?

Didn't think so.

No harm in asking, we wouldn't get very far.

Yeknod

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Originally posted by Berlichtingen:

Ok, Nidiot, if you are going to use Joe's tradition of spelling and bolding, DO IT RIGHT! All squires and Knights are spelled and bolded. Meeks was a Senoir Knight long before you were a floater in our Cesspool. So you do not make the same mistake in the future, here is the complete list...

Quite right Berli , to me this is an indication that Joe's rulings are still in effect, you sir have just validated them, and I will follow them.

Edited to say: Meeks has yet to repond to my setup EMail, after he ordered the challenge....also he is claiming some trickery, by stating his "return undeliverable" message is just a ploy, does the proposed King, really have an EMail box? I propose an investigation, do we have an official MBT Hercule Pierot, or perhaps an Inspector Cloussou?

[ January 19, 2003, 11:12 AM: Message edited by: Nidan1 ]

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Originally posted by Yeknodathon:

... and I wouldn't really want to twang the Justicar on account that guitar picks would have to be a certain size so as to pluck and lever lips with vigorous strumming... and one couldn't predict a constant tension... and I should think that consistent tension is very important playing a Justicar... one wouldn't want a flabby Justicar with inconsistently tuned lips otherwise one might lose not only yer guitar pick but half yer arm as well... *sniff*... don't suppose he's wanting a battle donkey?

Didn't think so.

No harm in asking, we wouldn't get very far.

Yeknod

Good Donkey Sir Yeknodathon, if by this you mean to proclaim for The One The True CessPool then by all means ... good War Donkeys are as hard to find, harder one would suspect, than good War Chargers.

So what say you Yeknodathon will you fight for the right, will you declare FOR the CessPool, will you cry out with us (or bray if you like, we're willing to be reasonable) against the hypocrisy and "let them eat cake" attitude of the Olde Ones, will you wage WAR with us Yeknodathon to keep the Pretender Apostate from the throne of olde? Will you lad?

WHO STANDS FOR THE CESSPOOL?

Shavian House

Clan OGSF

Boo-Radley House, House Boo, Croda House et al

Gaylord Focker

Panzer Leader

AussieJeff

Wildman (via email proxy)

INDEPENDENTS ... Standing, if not exactly For the CessPool then darn near to it:

MrSpkr

Leeo

Joe

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Originally posted by MrSpkr:

</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Berlichtingen:

On another topic... So, Joe, you wants to take Vadr as Squire (happy birthday Vadr)... to this I say you nay. Cast leave that one in the cask for a bit more... it needs aging

Originally posted by Joe Shaw:

p.s. Berli in response to your rejection of my Squire, I have every right to take Vadr to Squire and I choose to exercise that right.

BRZKKTTT!!! WRONG, Joe! As Inquisitor General of the Cesspool, I cannot allow such flagrant violation of the Sacred Rules of this Thread (and ones you yourself have oft quoted) to be disregarded.

Vadr (snb and Happy Belated Birthday) SHALL NOT be your squire at this time as his elevation to Squire has been rejected by an Olde One, as is their right. You can pout and preen and give spittle-laced rants to the masses (note to self -- treat Joe's speeches like a Gallagher concert -- avoid at all costs and if unable to avoid, never sit in the first five rows) all you want, but that shall NOT change the fact Vadr is currently nothing more than a lickspittle Serf.

Someone has to hold even the Justicar himself to the Rules -- its a good thing the Inquisitor General is on the job.

Steve</font>

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The Anthem My Liege...

Us and Them

And after all we're only ordinary men

Me, and you

God only knows it's not what we would choose to do

Forward cried Meeks from the rear

and the front rank died

And the King sat, as the lines on the map

moved from side to side

Black and Blue

And who knows which is which and who is who

Up and Down

And in the end it's only round and round and round

Haven't you heard it's a battle of words

the Storyteller cried

Listen son, said the Devil with the gun

There's room for you inside

Down and Out

It can't be helped but there's a lot of it about

With, without

And who'll deny that's what the fightings all about

Get out of the way, it's a busy day

And I've got things on my mind

For want of the Respect for Tradition

The Old Git died

*With apologies to Rick Wright and Roger Waters...
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Originally posted by dalem, mon petite general:

</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by OGSF:

<font size=-1>Leeo! Dalem! Proclaim ye stand!</font>

<font size=-1>I see fire, and I see flame.....

I see, you see, heebie-jeebie.</font></font>

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Originally posted by Berlichtingen:

Boo would be King

Don't try flattery with me, Berli!

And what, by the way, did you offer the pretender (Not Chrissie Hynde, the other one, Meeks) anyhoo? An unlimited supply of stenographers to massage his little ducks feet and rub oil on his fat head? Maybe PL's yarbles to wear as earrings? Time share privileges on a few dozen souls?

Pah! This whole situation reeks of calumny!

It reeks of Meeks.

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Originally posted by Joe Shaw:

BRZKKTTT!!!WRONG, MrSpkr! Don't presume to teach me the rules and procedures I set forth.

No, you merely PROPOSE Rules; the Olde Ones have adoption or veto power.

As I mentioned in my post, NORMALLY I would follow the dictates of the Olde Ones in this and all other matters, but it is abundantly obvious that they have forfeited their right to oversee the activities of the MBT.
And who has the right to make THAT decision? Not you. I refer you to one of your previous blatherings:

Joe wishes he had never admitted:

Secondarily (and in second place), the Justicar of the Peng Challenge Thread is specifically prohibited from making rulings on the Olde Ones.

Therefore, you have, BY YOUR OWN ADMISSION, NO power to decide whether the Old Ones have taken leave of their senses. None. Zilch. Nada. Nil. Goose egg. End of story.

Why you ask? THEY HAVE CHOSEN TO INSTALL A KING! Without consultation, without referrendum and without any recourse on the part of they who would be ruled.
(Alef) you have no right to rule on their decisions; and

(Omega Prime) chaos and arbitrariness are the hallmarks of the Olde Ones -- it is their birthright.

Frankly, I believe you see HRH Meeks not as a threat to the Cesspool, but as a threat to your own power which you have been quietly accumulating in recent months. You view him not as a heretic or apostate, but as one whom might interfere with your plans to dominate the One True Thread.

Remember when you were originally made Justicar? Search back through the fog in your cheap wine-addled mind and remember the job description from the want ad:

Lorak noted: Justicar

- A Person that holds the power to punish transgressions of the Traditions, and one of the ultimate authorities in the organization. There is only one Justicar for each Clan at any one time, And all within the clan are subject to their authority, with the only exceptions being members of the Inner Circle.

Only Justicars can call a Conclave, where their judgements are dispensed. These are often harsh, as there are no written guidelines for penalties for specific crimes. And in addition, a Justicar's decisions may only be challenged by another Justicar or head Judge/enforcer.

You fear HRH Meeks as another threat to your power, for as King, he would clearly have the ability to challenge your decisions just as I, Inquisitor General do here today.

The King is, by all historical precedents, the SUPREME RULER. Therefore, if they claim Meeks (nb) to be King, then they have no authority. No authority means that they have abdicated their roles as Olde Ones.
BRZZZKKKTT! Wrong again, Joe. Traditionally, kings ruled by Divine Right. Their power and authority came directly from the Supreme Ruler of the Universe.

In Christian nations, the Supreme Ruler was a trinity, consisting of God the Father, Jesus the Son, and the Holy Spirit. In the Universe that encompasses the Muthah Beautiful, the Supreme Ruler is also a trinity -- Berlichtingen, MrPeng and of course, Seanachai. Clearly, History supports the fact that THEY, as Supreme Rulers of the Cesspool, are the source of HRH Meeks' right to rule as King.

I seek to return to them the power and responsibility that they once had but have forsaken for a few tawdry trinkets and hasty gulps of cheap ale.
All three would foresake all their worldly possessions for some shiny trinkets and cheap ale -- but that is beside the point. They have never LOST their power, and even had they done so, you have no right to try to return it to them.

I AM FOR THE CESSPOOL!
You are for yourself.

Do you recall a single case, MrSpkr, even one, in which the Olde Ones refused a Knight who had first rights the taking of a Squire? Even ONE?
Yes.

I think not. Thus it's obvious that the Olde Ones are being their usual capricious and arbitrary selves (no doubt still under the influence of the Champagne provided by Meeks (nb) ... here's a hint guys, if the label says "DON Perignon" and has a picture of the Godfather on it ... it ain't what you think it is) and are merely trying to intimidate me.
They are SUPPOSED to be arbitrary and capricious, you twit.

Until or unless the situation is resolved, Vadr is squire to me.
It is resolved, Joe, and your failure to recognize that doesn't change facts one iota.

As you yourself once admitted, Joe the Olde Ones are the source of your power. You do nothing but act on their behalf. Review this example, pertaining to squires, pulled from the pages of antiquity

Joe once spouted:

Not so fast there Moriarty, it is YOU who are behind the times on this issue (big surprise). A serf is a serf until they become a Squire and Squire is allowed to become a Squire when taken to Squire by a Knight BUT said taking shall only occur upon the agreement of the Justicar of the Peng Challenge Thread who, acting on behalf of the Olde Ones, has full authority to approve or disapprove the elevation of Serfs to Squire even in those instances in which a Serf has been taken to Squire by a Knight in which case the Serf shall remain a Serf but said Knight shall first rights of refusal to said Serf. Clear?

Again, your power derives from the Olde Ones just as does mine and as does HRH Meeks -- which is why HRH Meeks cannot remove you (nor me, for that matter), and why YOU do not have the power to remove either HRH Meeks or me.

It's also why the Olde Ones can reject the elevation of a serf to squire -- even if that serf is to be YOUR squire.

Steve

Edited because it was a long danged post!

[ January 19, 2003, 07:01 PM: Message edited by: MrSpkr ]

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Just like a lawyer isn't it lads ... wait until the last possible minute and THEN submit a lengthy ... VERY lemgthy, restraining order that one simply can't respond to in depth in the time remaining.

For you see I'm off to Scottsdale tomorrow and have tons of work to get done so that I can get ready to go ... but of course MrSpkr knew that.

I'll rebute one quick point and then perhaps I'll have time in Scottsdale to respond in depth to his ludicrous suggestions.

Please note, MrSpkr, the wording used in the ruling on MY responsibility for admitting Squires to the CessPool. It was On Behalf Of .... I submit the following definition from YourDictionary.com:

Usage Note: A traditional rule holds that in behalf of and on behalf of have distinct meanings. In behalf of means "for the benefit of," as in We raised money in behalf of the earthquake victims. On behalf of means "as the agent of, on the part of," as in The guardian signed the contract on behalf of the minor child.
So you see, I am acting AS THEIR AGENT in these matters and as such I have full rights to approve or deny as I, their agent, see fit. Nor may they gainsay me in this as that is not part of the charter in this matter.

Vadr is my Squire ... end of discussion.

As to the rest ... the War is ON MrSpkr ... and we ALL know the cause of it, Meeks (nb) shall not be King. Knight, certainly, even Seniour Knight since I see that was his rank before he went absent for oh so long. But NEVER KING!

Joe

[ January 19, 2003, 07:06 PM: Message edited by: Joe Shaw ]

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