Ultradave Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 I took the plunge and updated to OS X 13.0 (Ventura). Good news - CM *mostly* works fine, eventually. Bad news - you'll have to be patient. I had to force quit and restart each CM title several times before they started up. The first couple of times they hung up, and showed "not responding" in the CMD-OPTION-ESC quit box. I don't know why this is. EXCEPT, so far I can't get RT to start at all. It just hangs up. The first couple of times with a not responding message, and since then it just doesn't ever start up. I'll be doing some investigating to see if I can find any error messages in system logs. Good news - Once they did start up, they ran just fine, and continued the PBEM game in FB with no problems. I'll post here if/when I figure more out. Keep in mind this is just one hour of playing with Ventura, but figured I'd give a heads up so people don't just throw up their hands. Dave 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G. Smiley Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 Thank you Dave, very helpful. I'll hold off updating for a few days... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky_Strike Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 23 hours ago, Ultradave said: I took the plunge and updated to OS X 13.0 (Ventura). Somebody has to be first! Well done for taking the plunge. Off the top of my head, so excuse complete ignorance here, is the slow start perhaps related to iCloud? Do you use iCloud? Maybe disable it temporarily if it's enabled. I doubt I'll go there yet as my Mac has to stay pretty stable for work as well as play, but will watch your findings with interest. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultradave Posted October 27, 2022 Author Share Posted October 27, 2022 3 minutes ago, Lucky_Strike said: Somebody has to be first! Well done for taking the plunge. Off the top of my head, so excuse complete ignorance here, is the slow start perhaps related to iCloud? Do you use iCloud? Maybe disable it temporarily if it's enabled. I doubt I'll go there yet as my Mac has to stay pretty stable for work as well as play, but will watch your findings with interest. I used to be that way when I was at NC State because I used it for research (Linux apps), and for teaching. I don't think it's iCloud because nothing CM related has anything to do with iCloud. But, hey, sometimes weird things show up. BUT, retired now, so nothing better to do than run tests on myself Dave 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky_Strike Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 29 minutes ago, Ultradave said: BUT, retired now, so nothing better to do than run tests on myself LOL, CM health warning: Not tested on animals, just retirees 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultradave Posted October 27, 2022 Author Share Posted October 27, 2022 In the Activity Monitor it shows cmrt process running at about 15% CPU, so I'm just letting it run, and run, and run, hoping that it will eventually decide to finish starting up. No idea why RT is being finicky compared to all the rest (well, more finicky - the rest took 2 or 3 restarts to get going, but RT is just obstinate). Can't think of any logical reason for it. Dave 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultradave Posted October 27, 2022 Author Share Posted October 27, 2022 Ok, RT works now. I wish I knew why, however, what worked was starting it (right click "Open" to bypass the Mac OS security), let it "run" for about 30 minutes with nothing happening, Force Quit it, started it from the menu bar again and it started right up. So, all good, with some fiddling. I did not test SF2, since I don't currently have it installed. I would expect it to be the same as the rest. I did reinstall RT as part of this (that wasn't the problem though) and there was no change from the latest Mac OS rigmarole of right clicking, Open, Open anyway, etc. Dave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky_Strike Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 4 hours ago, Ultradave said: Ok, RT works now. Thanks for the update Dave, glad you're back up and running. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwolf Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 For me, CMRT also isn't starting and after many kill cycles it still didn't change its mind. CMCW works fine on first try. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert DuBalay Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Thanks for having tested it. Thinking of changing my 2009 MacBook Pro (yes ! stil runs great) for one of the slick Silicon chip ones. Has anybody ever tested CM on those new Apple Mac Silicon ? Thanks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultradave Posted November 1, 2022 Author Share Posted November 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Albert DuBalay said: Thanks for having tested it. Thinking of changing my 2009 MacBook Pro (yes ! stil runs great) for one of the slick Silicon chip ones. Has anybody ever tested CM on those new Apple Mac Silicon ? Thanks. Yes. It works fine. There is at least one thread on here of reports. I don't have one myself but others, both users and beta testers have them. Dave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liamb Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 Can confirm CM works great on silicon Macs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ales Dvorak Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 On 11/3/2022 at 10:53 AM, liamb said: Can confirm CM works great on silicon Macs Yes, but shaders look odd. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herr_oberst Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 Currently on an iMac x86, 24GB RAM, Radeon Pro 580 8 GB. Thinking about an MacBook Pro, M1Max, 32GB, Terabyte drive (why go less?), so interesting info... always have the iMac as a fall-back... All my dev tools (work) are becoming M1-compatible... Hmm... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulman Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 CMRT would not start from the Launchpad for me, but it would run if I navigated to it in Finder and used the right-click > open method. Weird. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultradave Posted December 21, 2022 Author Share Posted December 21, 2022 I don't know what it is about RT that makes it a bit crankier than the other titles. I tried a lot of different things. The good news is that eventually it works! Dave 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hm_stanley Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 Here is also the crappy thing.. each time you update ventura you need to go through this all over again.. I did this once with 13.01 and then again with 13.1. Seems to be some OS level thing, but the fact that this game runs at all on macOS is a good thing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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