Redwolf Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, Rinaldi said: Homies be like "why would the points system do this to my BMPs?" Then handle them in combat like this That's not an argument. Usual question: do you play quickbattles with purchasing? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanir Ausf B Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 (edited) If I were evaluating these vehicles as light tanks I'd certainly give the advantage to the Bradley. But these are IFVs, and you would have to buy 25% more Bradleys to transport the same number of men you could in BMPs. That's no small thing. Edited November 22, 2021 by Vanir Ausf B 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwolf Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Just now, Vanir Ausf B said: If I were evaluating these vehicles as light tanks I'd certainly give the advantage to the Bradley. But these are IFVs, and you would have to buy 5 Bradleys to transport the same number of men you could in 4 BMPs. That's no small thing. Well, that also depends on squad size. If you shuffle around rifle squads and they have the correct number of men and seats the difference doesn't matter. If you taxi heavy weapons and sharpshooters then it does matter. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanir Ausf B Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 25 minutes ago, Redwolf said: Well, that also depends on squad size. If you shuffle around rifle squads and they have the correct number of men and seats the difference doesn't matter. If you taxi heavy weapons and sharpshooters then it does matter. A US mech infantry platoon (Bradley) and a Soviet mech infantry platoon (BMP-2) both have 22 men, but the Soviets fit into 3 BMPs while the Americans need 4 Bradleys. 4x287=1,136 vs 3x298=894. I think any way you slice it you're always paying more for the same carry capacity with Bradleys even though the squads fit because the US made the squads fit by reducing their size. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethaface Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Yeah the carry capacity certainly has value. Although having a 4th Bradley does as well :). If you're looking for cheap carry capacity a Bradley wouldn't be my first choice. Anyway one explanation could be that points distribution/formula whatever is being used, differs per side. Also I don't think this is a big issue whatsoever, the point difference being small and it's not like the BMP-2 is an alternative to the Bradley or vice versa. Let alone the massive rarity points so it won't show up in numbers unless people playing without rarity at all. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwolf Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 11 minutes ago, Vanir Ausf B said: A US mech infantry platoon (Bradley) and a Soviet mech infantry platoon (BMP-2) both have 22 men, but the Soviets fit into 3 BMPs while the Americans need 4 Bradleys. 4x287=1,136 vs 3x298=894. I think any way you slice it you're always paying more for the same carry capacity with Bradleys even though the squads fit because the US made the squads fit by reducing their size. That's only because the so-called HQ with the Soviets is a single man. The 4th Bradley on the other hand holds 3 men HQ and 2 men FO. I don't see how that makes the Bradley cheaper. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanir Ausf B Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 2 hours ago, Redwolf said: That's only because the so-called HQ with the Soviets is a single man. The 4th Bradley on the other hand holds 3 men HQ and 2 men FO. I don't see how that makes the Bradley cheaper. The US squads are also one man smaller. Even if you leave the FO there is no way to transport a US platoon in fewer than 4 Bradleys. I mean, 2 fewer seats is 2 fewer seats. If you're job is transporting people I'm not sure how that doesn't matter unless your troops are walking, in which case you're better off with a real tank anyways. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holman Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 I'm confused. CMCW 1.02 isn't released yet, right? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 I think Steam purchasers are giving y'all a bit of a preview of the coming patch. A small reminder, Cold War Bradley doesn't have the heavy MEXAS ceramic armor tiles of the CMBS vehicle, so Bradley's not quite the armored-up monster you may be used to. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bufo Posted November 23, 2021 Author Share Posted November 23, 2021 5 hours ago, Holman said: I'm confused. CMCW 1.02 isn't released yet, right? It is already released on Steam. Coming later through Battlefront downloads. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethaface Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 8 hours ago, MikeyD said: I think Steam purchasers are giving y'all a bit of a preview of the coming patch. A small reminder, Cold War Bradley doesn't have the heavy MEXAS ceramic armor tiles of the CMBS vehicle, so Bradley's not quite the armored-up monster you may be used to. All BFC purchasers can also get the Steam version, that's how I got it anyway. And indeed the CW Bradley isn't the armored-up monster like modern variants, although imo it is a game changer for the US forces in CW. That is, IF it's on the field (which it isn't often). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin2k Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 4 hours ago, Bufo said: It is already released on Steam. Coming later through Battlefront downloads. Matrix / Slitherine has CMCW v1.02 available as well. It does not require a client to use it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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