Beeman Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 I am using parallels desktop (Windows 10 ARM)on a 16Gb M1 MacBook Pro. I installed in Windows 10 using the Windows installer. Posting this in case others are struggling to get the CM games running on an M1 Mac. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transporter Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 Have you run the native CM on your Mac laptop or do you use only the windows version via parallels? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexUK Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 I run native on M1 mac book air. Not bad, not great. CMCW with big maps struggles. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G. Smiley Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Looking forward to hearing how the game runs on the new Macbook Pro’s! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G. Smiley Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 Could anyone more tech/Mac savvy comment on if the improvements in the new M1 Pro (Macbook Pro) will make any difference in Combat Mission gaming compared to the older M1? I remember someone writing at some point that CM can only use 'one core' - I hardly understand what that means to be honest, but I assume it means the whole multi-core thing does not make any difference for the CM experience? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwolf Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 4 minutes ago, G. Smiley said: Could anyone more tech/Mac savvy comment on if the improvements in the new M1 Pro (Macbook Pro) will make any difference in Combat Mission gaming compared to the older M1? I remember someone writing at some point that CM can only use 'one core' - I hardly understand what that means to be honest, but I assume it means the whole multi-core thing does not make any difference for the CM experience? Right. CPU-wise all M1 Macs are the same for CM, even the biggest 16" (except that the Air with no fan might slow down after a while). But of course the added GPU cores do make a difference. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G. Smiley Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 10 minutes ago, Redwolf said: Right. CPU-wise all M1 Macs are the same for CM, even the biggest 16" (except that the Air with no fan might slow down after a while). But of course the added GPU cores do make a difference. Thanks Redwolf. Should I expect noticeable improved performance compared with my current 2016 MBP with the Intel Iris Graphics 550 1536 MB? I understand this is specualtion only and 'noticeable' is a very vague term. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwolf Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 17 minutes ago, G. Smiley said: Thanks Redwolf. Should I expect noticeable improved performance compared with my current 2016 MBP with the Intel Iris Graphics 550 1536 MB? I understand this is specualtion only and 'noticeable' is a very vague term. I don't have an M1 Mac, but my understanding is "no" at this time. If you want to run better on Mac a used Intel mac with ATI graphics chip is the better option at this time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
absolutmauser Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 I have a 2013 MBP (an intel one) and the only time it struggles is on large maps with really large deployment zones. For whatever reason it hates rendering that color overlay! Thinking about one of the new M1 Pro MBP's. If I get one, I'll let everyone know how it runs! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwolf Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 FWIW the running-on-single-core issue does of course affect Intel machines equally. So buying an Intel Mac with many cores is not necessary. That can drive the price for a used Mac down quite a bit. Just make sure it has a dedicated graphics chip. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G. Smiley Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 Received my M1 MacBook Pro 14" 2021 today and fired up CMCW 1.03. Runs great, definitely better than on my Intel 2016 MacBook Pro. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultradave Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 Good to hear. I wonder if the performance using Parallels would be better than my Intel MBP. That will be the only way to use PBEM++ Right now, CW runs in Parallels, but not well. Graphics are poor and a lot of lag. But the M1 chips are supposed to be screamers. Dave 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwolf Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 24 minutes ago, Ultradave said: Good to hear. I wonder if the performance using Parallels would be better than my Intel MBP. That will be the only way to use PBEM++ Right now, CW runs in Parallels, but not well. Graphics are poor and a lot of lag. But the M1 chips are supposed to be screamers. Yeah, but CM is an x86 binary, so you would have a processor code translation that you don't have with Parallels on x86 running x86 windows binaries. Why did you pick Parallels over the alternatives (vmware, virtualbox)? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultradave Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 24 minutes ago, Redwolf said: Yeah, but CM is an x86 binary, so you would have a processor code translation that you don't have with Parallels on x86 running x86 windows binaries. Why did you pick Parallels over the alternatives (vmware, virtualbox)? Made it easier for work I was doing for my research when I was at NC State. Combination of tools running in Windows and Unix (which run on Mac with a little massaging), and passing files back and forth. I've just stuck with it because it works well for me and I'm used to it. Dave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwolf Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 I broke down and bought Parallels (too many problems with virtualbox). It runs CMCW surprisingly well. Certainly well enough for quick PBEM replies. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
absolutmauser Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 I have a 2013 Intel MBP and it has played CM well generally. It struggles on a couple of the large maps in CMCW, especially when the "setup zone" blue overlay is onscreen before the turn starts. Otherwise it does fine! I have a gaming PC I use for CM more often than not, but the MBP means I can take it on the go! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud Backer Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 I'll ask here what I asked in another thread - anyone using Monterey and an M1 Mac having an issue that the loading screens for turns are completely black? There is no % loaded displayed as the turn is read by the game. Didn't work that way only intel Mac, and not on my windows PC either. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormDog Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 Can’t help you with the M1 question. I have a 2014 27” iMac w/ high end GPU, and a high end 2019 MBP w/ AMD Pro Vega 20 GPU. The iMac loads slow, but runs great. The Vega 20 encounters freeze issues, leading to crashes, and Saving during the command phase causes the game to sporadically quit (no crash and no save either) so commands given since last save are lost. These issues only appear on certain maps, and map size doesn’t seem to be the problem. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwolf Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 37 minutes ago, StormDog said: Can’t help you with the M1 question. I have a 2014 27” iMac w/ high end GPU, and a high end 2019 MBP w/ AMD Pro Vega 20 GPU. The iMac loads slow, but runs great. The Vega 20 encounters freeze issues, leading to crashes, and Saving during the command phase causes the game to sporadically quit (no crash and no save either) so commands given since last save are lost. These issues only appear on certain maps, and map size doesn’t seem to be the problem. Which maps? I'd like to try. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud Backer Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 So far I've not had any crashes or other issues. With the new MacBook it loads everything, even really large maps, very quickly; far far faster than my gaming windows 10 computer. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky_Strike Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 12 hours ago, StormDog said: Can’t help you with the M1 question. I have a 2014 27” iMac w/ high end GPU, and a high end 2019 MBP w/ AMD Pro Vega 20 GPU. The iMac loads slow, but runs great. The Vega 20 encounters freeze issues, leading to crashes, and Saving during the command phase causes the game to sporadically quit (no crash and no save either) so commands given since last save are lost. These issues only appear on certain maps, and map size doesn’t seem to be the problem. Interesting that the Vega bugs out. I use a 2019 iMac 27" 5k with Radeon Pro 575X GPU and have practically zero issues running any of the CM games. I do still run Mojave (10.14) for stability/compatibility as it's a work rig as well. Use it to play and develop my mods and rarely find anything it can't handle. Bit slow opening the largest of maps but that's to be expected. Looks like AMD may have futzed up the newer drivers. I may run a test with Catalina, Big Sur and Monterey to see if any of them cause issues for me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormDog Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 On 12/5/2021 at 9:45 PM, Lucky_Strike said: Looks like AMD may have futzed up the newer drivers. I may run a test with Catalina, Big Sur and Monterey to see if any of them cause issues for me. Thanks for the reply. Very well may be. I was not sure how graphics card driver updates were handled on a Mac until I read that they are included in system software updates//upgrades. The problems may have started as a result of upgrading to Catalina (I'm now on Monteray, and still have the problems). My 2014 27" iMac is still running Majave, and I have no problems on it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky_Strike Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 6 hours ago, StormDog said: Thanks for the reply. Very well may be. I was not sure how graphics card driver updates were handled on a Mac until I read that they are included in system software updates//upgrades. The problems may have started as a result of upgrading to Catalina (I'm now on Monteray, and still have the problems). My 2014 27" iMac is still running Majave, and I have no problems on it. Yes, sadly with Apple the GPU drivers are a bit too closely integrated with the system unlike in Windows where it's much easier to downgrade ones drivers if a new version has issues. It is possible to mess with the GPU driver versions but it's a right faff and can cause other unforeseen issues. If I get a chance over Christmas I might try out a newer OS but sometimes if it ain't broke ... is the safest approach. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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