JM Stuff Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Jabble said: That's the album, and there's a 2013 re-recording. I buy CDs as I'm old-school, though I do digitise them for convenience. OK, if I were really old-school I'd buy vinyl... http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=43652 From about 10 years ago I sell all my vinyl to replace it by mp3, a sad moment, I win place, but loose some nice moments in memory, but also money cos now the vinyls are a rarity and very expensive ! Edited April 2, 2021 by JM Stuff 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erwin Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 Am sorry that I insisted that my wife sell her extensive vinyl collection maybe 25 years ago due to lack of storage space - and of course everything was on CD. (I still collect CD's and do not use MP3 etc. I hate the modern idea that one doesn't own anything and if the power goes out, you lose everything.) But, the alternative is to hoard everything, cos "you never know..." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM Stuff Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, Erwin said: Am sorry that I insisted that my wife sell her extensive vinyl collection maybe 25 years ago due to lack of storage space - and of course everything was on CD. (I still collect CD's and do not use MP3 etc. I hate the modern idea that one doesn't own anything and if the power goes out, you lose everything.) But, the alternative is to hoard everything, cos "you never know..." Yes Erwin it is all true all that and it is very sad, one does not think (I) do not think enough about the future at this time and follow the course of the life, with the being saying better qualities, and tidying up. I like your words, "cos we never know" this is what I say to my wife when I see the garage and the garden ! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabble Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 14 minutes ago, JM Stuff said: From about 10 years ago I sell all my vinyl to replace it by mp3, a sad moment, I win place, but loose some nice moments in memory, but also money cos now the vinyls are a rarity and very expensive ! Indeed, now vinyl is for enthusiasts - electronic is so convenient for everyday use. I mostly bought my vinyls when CDs came in and everybody was selling off their "old tech" cheaply. Unfortunately I lost most of it when it "disappeared" during a flat move I'm still replacing parts of it on CD when I spot the bargains. 2 minutes ago, Erwin said: But, the alternative is to hoard everything, cos "you never know..." OK if you own a warehouse! I still like to own the CDs (just in case!) but I rip everything to HDD to actually play them as it's more convenient and the only way to put them on a portable player. I miss the cover art from the vinyl days though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erwin Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 1 minute ago, Jabble said: I still like to own the CDs (just in case!) but I rip everything to HDD to actually play them I thought there was copy protection on the CD's. (Believe it or not I have never tried to copy a CD to a HD.) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabble Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, Erwin said: I thought there was copy protection on the CD's. (Believe it or not I have never tried to copy a CD to a HD.) None that I've encountered, though it may be out there somewhere. I guess it's more likely to be on the modern high-volume sales stuff. Even Windows Media Player has a built-in ripper, though it's not so versatile. But I don't buy modern pop these days so maybe that's why I don't see protection. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM Stuff Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 8 minutes ago, Erwin said: I thought there was copy protection on the CD's. (Believe it or not I have never tried to copy a CD to a HD.) Ha ha Mr ripper @Jabblewhat you have to say to your defense ? (Just joking) don't move the knife in the wound, people is already sad enough that I dont keep it ! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabble Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 Just now, JM Stuff said: Ha ha Mr ripper @Jabblewhat you have to say to your defense ? (Just joking) don't move the knife in the wound, people is already sad enough that I dont keep it ! Hehe - I've already paid good money for the music - I just want to choose which device! Maybe it depends on jurisdiction, but many allow personal backups. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM Stuff Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, Jabble said: Hehe - I've already paid good money for the music - I just want to choose which device! Maybe it depends on jurisdiction, but many allow personal backups. yes nowadays all that is allowed,... is not to try...! What kind of music band do you like in the past, and today ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabble Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 I'm a grazer - a bit of everything, but probably more Prog Rock than other types. Any group with a 5-disc concept album and Roger Dean cover art Though also a bit of jazz, older pop, classical and even tango. I don't "get" the modern stuff at all, though - I've become like my grandparents! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM Stuff Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Jabble said: I'm a grazer - a bit of everything, but probably more Prog Rock than other types. Any group with a 5-disc concept album and Roger Dean cover art Though also a bit of jazz, older pop, classical and even tango. I don't "get" the modern stuff at all, though - I've become like my grandparents! Dont tell me you are also a fan from YES, I am also a great fan and pricipaly this one , Tormato Drama Fragile... ,this is a part of my sad moment ,cos I had almot all from them in vinyls, taking place in my cupboard like my clothes to dress me now ! Now available, in mp3 in a little place on a forgotten HD, I had also buy on a free market in gemany, the full 4 quarted 4 vinyls, one was in bad condition but for a good price, I think yes show, or yessong dont remember ! Edited April 2, 2021 by JM Stuff 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabble Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 7 hours ago, JM Stuff said: Dont tell me you are also a fan from YES, I am also a great fan and pricipaly this one , Tormato Drama Fragile... ,this is a part of my sad moment ,cos I had almot all from them in vinyls, taking place in my cupboard like my clothes to dress me now !... Indeed YES! Plus many more from that era - ELP, APP, Floyd, Genesis, solo Wakeman, etc... I had most of Yes on vinyl - in one of those boxes that disappeared - now replaced by CD. Now I bet they still can be bought second-hand on vinyl, but what a price! I'm heartened that the genre is still very much alive with modern bands flourishing, like Magenta, Southern Empire & Mostly Autumn, and of course many of the old players like Anderson, Stolt and Hackett still tour (well, before Covid). Here's Southern Empire covering Yes's "Roundabout", originally from the '70s to keep it thread relevant. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM Stuff Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Jabble said: Indeed YES! Plus many more from that era - ELP, APP, Floyd, Genesis, solo Wakeman, etc... I had most of Yes on vinyl - in one of those boxes that disappeared - now replaced by CD. Now I bet they still can be bought second-hand on vinyl, but what a price! I'm heartened that the genre is still very much alive with modern bands flourishing, like Magenta, Southern Empire & Mostly Autumn, and of course many of the old players like Anderson, Stolt and Hackett still tour (well, before Covid). Here's Southern Empire covering Yes's "Roundabout", originally from the '70s to keep it thread relevant. nice I didnt know about this band what kind of genensis do you like ? for my part the old one with PGabriel.. Trespass Lamb down on brodway Nursery, a trick foxtrot and then they were three ...untill duke and almost all the PGabriel solo intruder... well i dont have to tell you ! .but not the new one not all from him ...after I dont like too much from Genesis and PG like Queen the old one than too commercial my opinion ! Edited April 3, 2021 by JM Stuff 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabble Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 8 hours ago, JM Stuff said: nice I didnt know about this band what kind of genensis do you like ? for my part the old one with PGabriel... I also think the early Genesis is the best, the most creative, but as members left (Gabriel, Hackett) that creative process diminished. While not so "prog" I do think they remained as a good rock band for a while, including Duke and even up to Abacab, but after that got a bit boring. I'm not very familiar with Gabriel's work outside, except for his best known works - maybe I should explore more there. Hackett has some good stuff too. Other from that era are still around, such as Jethro Tull, Alan Parsons (post-Project), Supertramp's Roger Hodgson and Marillion. Fish (ex-Marillion) has some good solo work, and even Kansas (wayward son) are still touring. There's a bunch of internet radio sites specialising in Prog Rock, such as The Musical Box, Prog.fm and Progzilla - good places to find out what's new as well as hear old favourites. One of the widest ranges of style has got to be the Alan Parsons Project, from spiky electronica through haunting ballads to soft rock - here's one from 1979: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM Stuff Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Jabble said: I also think the early Genesis is the best, the most creative, but as members left (Gabriel, Hackett) that creative process diminished. While not so "prog" I do think they remained as a good rock band for a while, including Duke and even up to Abacab, but after that got a bit boring. I'm not very familiar with Gabriel's work outside, except for his best known works - maybe I should explore more there. Hackett has some good stuff too. Other from that era are still around, such as Jethro Tull, Alan Parsons (post-Project), Supertramp's Roger Hodgson and Marillion. Fish (ex-Marillion) has some good solo work, and even Kansas (wayward son) are still touring. There's a bunch of internet radio sites specialising in Prog Rock, such as The Musical Box, Prog.fm and Progzilla - good places to find out what's new as well as hear old favourites. One of the widest ranges of style has got to be the Alan Parsons Project, from spiky electronica through haunting ballads to soft rock - here's one from 1979: I like after the ordeal from him and others also... Man you have mine LP from before I was thinking there were lost for ever...I liked also AlPaProject in the eyes the famous tales mystery...turn of the friendly... and robot this was the ones that I had so not so much ! Jethrothull not so much STramp Kansas Marillon yes From years ago I dont remember when gplus exist I post everys days music on a forum and had over 3000 everydays 5...I wish to do it again....today is only gplus in my mind all is gone ! Let me show you a band group more modern, that I like very much, I don t know if you know it with Steve Wilson, full of diversity of rhytms. Edited April 3, 2021 by JM Stuff 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MG TOW Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 (edited) You can't talk 1980 music without mentioning the Sinking Ships. Can't believe I'm the first. Edited April 3, 2021 by Pilaf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabble Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 (edited) 22 hours ago, JM Stuff said: I like after the ordeal from him and others also... Man you have mine LP from before I was thinking there were lost for ever...I liked also AlPaProject in the eyes the famous tales mystery...turn of the friendly... and robot this was the ones that I had so not so much ! Jethrothull not so much STramp Kansas Marillon yes From years ago I dont remember when gplus exist I post everys days music on a forum and had over 3000 everydays 5...I wish to do it again....today is only gplus in my mind all is gone ! Let me show you a band group more modern, that I like very much, I don t know if you know it with Steve Wilson, full of diversity of rhytms... Indeed I think Turn of a Friendly Card is possibly APP's best, though there's strong competition amongst their later works. Gaudi is possibly their best 'moody' album. The early stuff was still clever but experimental and somewhat patchy, though allowing Woolfson to master his own version of Spector's "wall of sound" later on. Ah yes - Steven Wilson - very talented. I don't (yet) own any but heard much on the radio, like his Porcupine Tree & Blackfield offerings, as well as solo. Another artist I'll probably investigate further at some point - I have a tendency to buy several albums from one artist at once, to compare the range. Can you recommend 3 Wilson albums to start? But Wilson's very modern - definitely too late for this Cold War thread! So to counterbalance I'll add in some more Yes (in their pop phase) from 1983: Edited April 4, 2021 by Jabble 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM Stuff Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 (edited) 12 hours ago, Jabble said: Indeed I think Turn of a Friendly Card is possibly APP's best, though there's strong competition amongst their later works. Gaudi is possibly their best 'moody' album. The early stuff was still clever but experimental and somewhat patchy, though allowing Woolfson to master his own version of Spector's "wall of sound" later on. Ah yes - Steven Wilson - very talented. I don't (yet) own any but heard much on the radio, like his Porcupine Tree & Blackfield offerings, as well as solo. Another artist I'll probably investigate further at some point - I have a tendency to buy several albums from one artist at once, to compare the range. Can you recommend 3 Wilson albums to start? But Wilson's very modern - definitely too late for this Cold War thread! So to counterbalance I'll add in some more Yes (in their pop phase) from 1983: Yes but No,... too modern... of course I like it also cos is yes but limited !! Allez ! on change a little the style with a band that I like also very much but nothing to do with what I show for the time, probably you know also !! about Wilson... not the one from Tom Hanks...hahaha I am funny !! Seriously from Steve Wilson or only Porcupine Tree I can recommand for sure Anesthetize In Absentia solo Steve is for me too quiet songs ! Edited April 4, 2021 by JM Stuff 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabble Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 10 hours ago, JM Stuff said: ...Seriously from Steve Wilson or only Porcupine Tree I can recommand for sure Anesthetize In Absentia solo Steve is for me too quiet songs ! Thanks, will look them out! To change direction a little, here's something to appreciate the M60A2 being in the game: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowMuchForYou? Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 This song really puts me in the mood for some Cold War. It really speaks to me and shows how brave our soldiers were to take on the mighty Soviet Union. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ishfar94 Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 i have a deep love of crunching guitars. This is pretty much my go to when pushing out turns. not fast, not slow. just the right amount of speed and aggression 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM Stuff Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 41 minutes ago, ishfar94 said: i have a deep love of crunching guitars. This is pretty much my go to when pushing out turns. not fast, not slow. just the right amount of speed and aggression I dont know this band, some passage are nice to listening, I will check another track... My choice is more modern sorry to don't respect the 80' ! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ishfar94 Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 18 hours ago, JM Stuff said: I dont know this band, some passage are nice to listening, I will check another track... My choice is more modern sorry to don't respect the 80' ! oh it's not a band. it's just a guy with a kfc bucket on his head and a mask . I would recommend checking him out. he's a weird one. no one has seen his face or anything. he's just a weirdo who happens to be extremely skilled on the guitars. still releases albums quite regularly. a great player and an even better composer. very versatile 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MG TOW Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 Well it has a Soviet flag, Margaret Thatcher and Ronald Reagan, and artillery firing in Grenada. Plus its a great song for the cold war. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainTheDark Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 Cold War (era) songs that put me in the fighting mood: Reign of Blows - XTC Bombs Away - The Police Cities in Dust - Siouxsie and the Banshees Songs from the era that make me want to sue for peace: Stand Or Fall - The Fixx Red Skies At Night - The Fixx This World Over - XTC The album Paranoid by Black Sabbath and the song House Burning Down by Jimi Hendrix have always led me to picture scenes of war. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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