MikeyD Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 (edited) I stumbled across these 2 videos by Ts4EVER that had been uploaded almost a month ago and was surprised they hadn't got a mention on the board. A pitch battle along Riva Ridge. 'Spoiler warning' if you haven't played the scenario yet, if you're sensitive to such stuff. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AOwd6W0orI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fk_kJ7RLoBA Edited December 29, 2019 by MikeyD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user1000 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 (edited) Notice how the BAR and water cooled HMGs pick up the slack of the springfields. That was a nightmare with them, imagine fighting as allies without the autos. Edited December 31, 2019 by user1000 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimpleSimon Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 (edited) The British and Russians seemed to manage that quite well enough. The Russians actually rather disliked their semi auto, the SVT 40 even. Edited January 1, 2020 by SimpleSimon 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted January 1, 2020 Author Share Posted January 1, 2020 I recall, or perhaps grossly mis-recall, a (real world) kills-per-shot statistic. Bolt action rifles averaged 8 rounds fired per casualty produced. Semi auto was closer to 20. Full auto would climb into the hundreds or rounds fired per casualty. Again, this is something I read once long ago and my numbers may be entirely off. But you get the general point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted January 1, 2020 Author Share Posted January 1, 2020 (edited) Ooops! It was 4 videos, not two. Here's the 3rd and 4th. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCKOAx8HSk4 Edited January 1, 2020 by MikeyD 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user1000 Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 (edited) On 1/1/2020 at 10:38 AM, MikeyD said: I recall, or perhaps grossly mis-recall, a (real world) kills-per-shot statistic. Bolt action rifles averaged 8 rounds fired per casualty produced. Semi auto was closer to 20. Full auto would climb into the hundreds or rounds fired per casualty. Again, this is something I read once long ago and my numbers may be entirely off. But you get the general point. ..... Also you have to really plan your artillery well as Brazilian EF on this one, helps a bunch. Edited January 2, 2020 by user1000 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ts4EVER Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 With all this talk about the new RT expansion, I felt like dusting off CMFI again: The scenario is very good, although the ridiculous finale felt like something from a Tarantino movie more than an actual battle... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
37mm Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 (edited) On 1/1/2020 at 3:38 PM, MikeyD said: I recall, or perhaps grossly mis-recall, a (real world) kills-per-shot statistic. Bolt action rifles averaged 8 rounds fired per casualty produced. Semi auto was closer to 20. Full auto would climb into the hundreds or rounds fired per casualty. Again, this is something I read once long ago and my numbers may be entirely off. But you get the general point. The simplistic stats I've seen indicate that the British Empire used an average of six million 0.303 rounds per day during WW1... I very much doubt they were inflicting hundreds of thousands of casualties per day. All of the great powers were producing SAA in the billions. If we take a random offensive in 1918, say the fifth battle of Ypres, the Brits expended a million rounds of artillery during a four day battle. Total German casualties (from all causes) were in the tens of thousands but far, far below any conceivable 8-1 ratio. In my opinion, all warfare features vast expenditures of ammunition for relatively few inflicted casualties. Apparently, during the Napoleonic wars, the common saying was that "to kill a man required expenditure of an amount of lead equal to his weight". A medieval English army of, say, 5000 archers could expend 60,000 arrows a minute in theory. Edited December 7, 2020 by 37mm 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vet 0369 Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 On 12/6/2020 at 7:22 PM, 37mm said: The simplistic stats I've seen indicate that the British Empire used an average of six million 0.303 rounds per day during WW1... I very much doubt they were inflicting hundreds of thousands of casualties per day. All of the great powers were producing SAA in the billions. If we take a random offensive in 1918, say the fifth battle of Ypres, the Brits expended a million rounds of artillery during a four day battle. Total German casualties (from all causes) were in the tens of thousands but far, far below any conceivable 8-1 ratio. In my opinion, all warfare features vast expenditures of ammunition for relatively few inflicted casualties. Apparently, during the Napoleonic wars, the common saying was that "to kill a man required expenditure of an amount of lead equal to his weight". A medieval English army of, say, 5000 archers could expend 60,000 arrows a minute in theory. Those “number of .303 rounds per day” doesn’t have much relationship to the “rounds per infantryman per kill” statistic originally quoted. The Vickers MG and other lighter more mobile infantry automatic guns, including the Lewis guns in the infantry and all of the fighter aircraft and defensives of the scouts, bombers, and balloons, all fired the .303 round. That massively skews the ratios. The SMLE, M1903, and M1917 Enfield, were routinely used to qualify at 1,000 yards (914.4 meters), and that was by regular riflemen, not snipers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
37mm Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 6 hours ago, Vet 0369 said: Those “number of .303 rounds per day” doesn’t have much relationship to the “rounds per infantryman per kill” statistic originally quoted. In my opinion, all warfare features vast expenditures of ammunition for relatively few inflicted casualties. This opinion has not been changed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 16 hours ago, Vet 0369 said: The SMLE, M1903, and M1917 Enfield, were routinely used to qualify at 1,000 yards (914.4 meters), and that was by Pre-War regular riflemen, not snipers. Those standards of marksmanship were not maintained (by the British at any rate). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erwin Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 Similar to going from longbow to crossbow. The latter was easier and cheaper to manufacture and train conscripts to use. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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