Mark_McLeod Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 I saw on the TO&E list and on a mission a panzer 2, but i dont know what faction nor month it has to be in order to be able to use them in QB, if anyone can tell me that'd be awesome thanks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user1000 Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 (edited) The PzII Luchs is in the game The panzer Is, 2s were left in normandy as training tanks and were originally used in 1940 to invade france, poland and then used in italy and mostly the eastern front. I believe there should be panzer I's in the normandy game because even though they were training tanks the axis had to have put them (the training tanks) to use against the allies. They had to use whatever they had in the area. Edited June 6, 2017 by user1000 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erwin Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 Are there any scenarios with Pz 1's and II's? That would be fun. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StieliAlpha Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, user1000 said: The PzII Luchs is in the game The panzer Is, 2s were left in normandy as training tanks and were originally used in 1940 to invade france, poland and then used in italy and mostly the eastern front. It should be noted, that the Luchs was not really a PzII. Or better a late, quite advanced version. "PzII" stands more for a family of light tanks, which evolved over the years. The Luchs had not very much in common with the early PzII. I just had one in a 1944 BN scenario. But it quickly met the fate of obsolete light tanks. RIP... Edited June 6, 2017 by StieliAlpha 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user1000 Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 (edited) 1 minute ago, StieliAlpha said: But it quickly met the fate of obsolete light tanks. RIP... send pz1 or 2 against some troops armored cars, jeeps or half tracks and you would see that it wasn't obsolete. Edited June 6, 2017 by user1000 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 Only 100 Luchs were made, the only divisions to receive a full compliment in their recon battalion were 4th & 9th Pz., the rest of the production was doled out in company sized or smaller packets. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StieliAlpha Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 1 hour ago, user1000 said: send pz1 or 2 against some troops armored cars, jeeps or half tracks and you would see that it wasn't obsolete. Yeah, in my case, there were some Sherman's around, too. I sent the Luchs forward for scouting. Basically to clear infantry. Which it duly did, until it caught a 76mm round... The following King Tiger paid back in heavy coin. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warts 'n' all Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 8 hours ago, user1000 said: I believe there should be panzer I's in the normandy game because even though they were training tanks the axis had to have put them (the training tanks) to use against the allies. They had to use whatever they had in the area. I didn't know that there were any PZ1s still in Normandy by '44. Do you know the names of the units that had them at the time of the invasion? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ts4EVER Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 (edited) IIRC they even had some of the latest, very rare model, with the high velocity autocannon. edit: The Ausf.C was a completely revised version of the previous Panzers. The hull, suspensions, track system, turret, propulsion, armor and armament were all new. It was given 30 mm (1.18 in) of armor, torsion-bar suspension, interleaved road wheels and a 7.92 mm (0.31 in) EW 141 antitank rifle. These tanks were assigned to the LVIII Panzer Reserve Corps, which fought in France in 1944. The Ausf.C was built in limited numbers (40 standard and 6 prototypes) by Krauss-Maffei and Daimler-Benz. Edited June 6, 2017 by Ts4EVER 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 (edited) There was nothing special about the cannon in the Pz.I Ausf C and it was even rarer than the Luchs, though it did see some action in Normandy. Edited June 7, 2017 by Sgt.Squarehead 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_McLeod Posted June 7, 2017 Author Share Posted June 7, 2017 Yes sorry i meant Luchs. The information about them is nice but does anyone know what the settings i have to be able to purchase them for my QB, month, year, SS or German Army 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user1000 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 (edited) still it's an auto 20mm... wouldn't want to get in front of that thing and will penetrate more than a inch and 1/2 of armor. That could take on a stuart tank, which had about that. Edited June 9, 2017 by user1000 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 On June 6, 2017 at 4:49 AM, user1000 said: ...were originally used in 1940 to invade france, poland and then used in italy and mostly the eastern front. Also used in North Africa for some recon and convoy escort. Too fragile to stand up to any British gun armed tank though. Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user1000 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 (edited) yeap fragile for sure, this books talks about polish troops taking them out with AT rifles Edited June 9, 2017 by user1000 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Not all Panzer 2s were fragile, this one was as tough as a Tiger: http://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/panzer-ii-ausf-j/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletpoint Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 15 hours ago, Sgt.Squarehead said: Not all Panzer 2s were fragile, this one was as tough as a Tiger: http://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/panzer-ii-ausf-j/ Wow, never heard of that before. Funny how WW2 has so many various vehicles with extremely limited production runs. Only 22 of these little beasts built.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 The Germans wasted a lot of resources on silly short-run projects, 'The Maus' being the prime example IMHO. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 27 minutes ago, Sgt.Squarehead said: The Germans wasted a lot of resources on silly short-run projects, 'The Maus' being the prime example IMHO. I think that is indicative of the kinds of delusions they suffered from, Hitler in particular. Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 (edited) If I had to hazard a guess (I don't really TBH, I could just look in Spielberger), I'd imagine this vehicle and the Pz.I Ausf F may have been inspired by the British Matilda Infantry Tanks which gave the Germans a bit of a scare at Arras in 1940: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Arras_(1940 Edited June 10, 2017 by Sgt.Squarehead 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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