ident Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 I plan to buy CMBS but I have stumbled upon some complains about licensing of this game. People claims that they can not activate game after reinstalling system and generally were compaining about some unfair licensing. Can you provide some details on what is the activation or reactivation process? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kraze Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 (edited) You get 4 activations total. No need to deactivate. New activation is needed on each new PC or... when you reinstall Windows/upgrade PC. Then you get 1 activation restored every year. If you happen to run out of activations you can write a message to devs and they can add an activation for you. Of course once the game is activated you don't need to go online anymore for the game to work. Edited April 6, 2015 by kraze 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieme(ITA) Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 I'll let others more expert on this technical side to answer completely. What I can tell you is this: even if you get any kind of problem the helpdesk and, generally, the help you can get from Battlefront personnel is more than adequate to solve any kind of problems concerning this matter. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Canadian Cat Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Where did you find complaints like that? I can only remember it coming up occasionally on these forums where people had problems and each time they were resolved by the help desk. At least as far as I recall. Sure, sometimes we get a thread that is a bitch session but I have no knowledge of actual unresolved issues around licensing that resulted in people not being able to play. I personally have had problems twice and both times the help desk had me back up and running very quickly. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thewood1 Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Not many people complain here. It just isn't conducive to it. Head over to the Grogheads forum and you'll see some in the past. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ident Posted April 6, 2015 Author Share Posted April 6, 2015 You get 4 activations total. No need to deactivate. New activation is needed on each new PC or... when you reinstall Windows/upgrade PC. Then you get 1 activation restored every year. If you happen to run out of activations you can write a message to devs and they can add an activation for you. Of course once the game is activated you don't need to go online anymore for the game to work. When I know that I am upgrading my PC can I deactivate product somehow to increase my activation count by 1? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ident Posted April 6, 2015 Author Share Posted April 6, 2015 (edited) Where did you find complaints like that? I can only remember it coming up occasionally on these forums where people had problems and each time they were resolved by the help desk. At least as far as I recall. Sure, sometimes we get a thread that is a bitch session but I have no knowledge of actual unresolved issues around licensing that resulted in people not being able to play. I personally have had problems twice and both times the help desk had me back up and running very quickly. If my memory servers it was on steam forum comparing Graviteam Tactics to Theater of War to Combat Mission. Edited April 6, 2015 by ident 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thewood1 Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 No, once you use an activation, it is gone. No getting it back. There used to be a system where you get a new activation each year after purchase. I am not sure that still functions. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AttorneyAtWar Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 No, once you use an activation, it is gone. No getting it back. There used to be a system where you get a new activation each year after purchase. I am not sure that still functions. You can send in a ticket at any time and ask for another activation, I can't think of a situation where a user who honestly owned the game got denied another license. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ident Posted April 6, 2015 Author Share Posted April 6, 2015 (edited) You can send in a ticket at any time and ask for another activation, I can't think of a situation where a user who honestly owned the game got denied another license. So now I understand why people are complaining. You buy expensive game and you can install it only four times -- this is really terrible practice. Is there any source of authorative information how activation system really works because I won't probably buy this game if it is only valid for 4 windows reinstalations. Edited April 6, 2015 by ident 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AttorneyAtWar Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 So now I understand why people are complaining. You buy expensive game and you can install it only four times -- this is really terrible practice. Is there any source of authorative information how activation system really works because? I won't probably buy this game if it is only valid for 4 windows reinstalations. Did you read my post...? You can ask for a reactivation license at any time, you don't only get just four, there have been plenty of users who have asked for reactivation's after they used up 4. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtHatred Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Did you read my post...? You can ask for a reactivation license at any time, you don't only get just four, there have been plenty of users who have asked for reactivation's after they used up 4. Yes, you are welcome to beg for access to software you've paid for. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AttorneyAtWar Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Yes, you are welcome to beg for access to software you've paid for. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Canadian Cat Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 OMG are you guys serious? Find a documented case of a customer not being able to play their game from BFC and then we can talk. Look we all know DRMs suck - they all do. It is a fact. They suck for the developers, customer support and customers themselves. But they are a fact of life there is no getting around it and no wishing it away and if you have a "favourite DRM scheme"tm that you think is some how superior, well bully for you. I say there is nothing superior about it - they all just suck. Get over it. BFC have a track record of making customers whole: so what are you worried about. Since I started playing CM games I have replaced a video card a few hard drives and got a bran new machine. Never had a problem of lack activation. In fact the only upgrade in there that actually required an additional activation was the new machine. I did have a problem after one module install where the DRM just lost its mind but customer support had me back working again very quickly. Seriously this is only an issue in your minds. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacroix Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 (edited) this drm sucks hard.its worse than pure evil,but so far i think helpdesk.mojo will give you as many keys as you want, for example you get new mobo, bam , key lost (yes,it could take 1hour or 10 days to get one,your pbem games or other scheduled wego games will wait), you go to help desk and get another one (yes, you ll need to write wall of text ,cd key and other technical info). after 10 days you reinstall windows 7 cos you wathced too many porns and now you need to clean that, bam , key lost. Repeat above. long story short: they ll give you keys, but you need to beg for it (write as if they are doing you a favor) and its not guarantieed 100% edit: so far they were were professional and fast tho. cant complain on that! Edited April 6, 2015 by Lacroix 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AttorneyAtWar Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 (edited) this drm sucks hard.its worse than pure evil,but so far i think helpdesk.mojo will give you as many keys as you want, for example you get new mobo, bam , key lost (yes,it could take 1hour or 10 days to get one,your pbem games or other scheduled wego games will wait), you go to help desk and get another one (yes, you ll need to write wall of text ,cd key and other technical info). after 10 days you reinstall windows 7 cos you wathced too many porns and now you need to clean that, bam , key lost. Repeat above. long story short: they ll give you keys, but you need to beg for it (write as if they are doing you a favor) and its not guarantieed 100% edit: so far they were were professional and fast tho. cant complain on that! If you think Battlefront's DRM is "worse than pure evil" you have no idea what you are talking about. Battlefront's DRM is actually one of the best ive encountered, and no I am not saying that as a fan boy, there are far worse than CM's, be happy that you don't have to login to Combat Mission each time to play it. Edited April 6, 2015 by Raptorx7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L0ckAndL0ad Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 For detailed info regarding licensing, you can download game manual and read what it says in detail: http://community.battlefront.com/topic/117390-black-sea-manual-get-it-here-while-its-hot/ Page 18+ Speaking of DRM. I can guarantee you that the only successful DRM out there is project's low popularity. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Canadian Cat Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Speaking of DRM. I can guarantee you that the only successful DRM out there is project's low popularity. This is the basis of my argument against DRM schemes in general. They cost effort for development. They cost effort for customer support. They occasionally make customers lives difficult. And to top it all off it often does not seem to stop the pirates much either. I sincerely wish DRM was going to go away one day. Not a practical wish and BFC have made it clear that they want one and I totally get that. I'm just glad they have one that works better than any other I have experienced. Battlefront's DRM is actually one of the best ive encountered My experience too. There are a lot of crappy annoying DRM schemes out there. Not just for games BTW. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieme(ITA) Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 (edited) Sending an email with a request for an additional activation prooving that you owned the game isn't "begging". I own CM games since CMBO, the first one. I changed more than a dozen computers since, and I performed, what, maybe two dozen hard disk formats? And I only asked once for CMSF for an activation that I couldn't figure out. If I remember correctly in 24 hours I had the game installed again. Unless you need to uninstall/install once per week the system can't bother too much. Edited April 7, 2015 by Kieme(ITA) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacroix Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 If you think Battlefront's DRM is "worse than pure evil" you have no idea what you are talking about. Battlefront's DRM is actually one of the best ive encountered, and no I am not saying that as a fan boy, there are far worse than CM's, be happy that you don't have to login to Combat Mission each time to play it. i'd preffer to press 1 button that will automatically login me into UI/game than this/ infact steam is awesome 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacroix Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 ofc guys who install win7 once in 30 years are not complaining, but newer generations are starving with this system 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ident Posted April 7, 2015 Author Share Posted April 7, 2015 i'd preffer to press 1 button that will automatically login me into UI/game than this/ infact steam is awesome I do not like DRM either but steam/origin have much more fair policy than CM. In fact they make life dificult for legal gamers. Pirates just do not care because it is easier to get game from torrent and just launch it to write e-mails in foreing language explaining that you are not a thief and you want to play game you bought. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ident Posted April 7, 2015 Author Share Posted April 7, 2015 For detailed info regarding licensing, you can download game manual and read what it says in detail: http://community.battlefront.com/topic/117390-black-sea-manual-get-it-here-while-its-hot/ Page 18+ Speaking of DRM. I can guarantee you that the only successful DRM out there is project's low popularity. Thank, Manual explains it in detail. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jargotn Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 ofc guys who install win7 once in 30 years are not complaining, but newer generations are starving with this system Wait... Are you telling me that you buy a new computer every year? We all know that DRM is an inconvenience, both for us players and the developers. But if it wouldn't work in some way developers wouldn't spend resources to aquire DRM. I never had any problems with DRM, and from what I can tell Battlefront prides themselves with their excellent customer support. Yes, it sucks not being able to download everything as much as you want. Some will prefer a system where they have to enter a key once and won't be bothered again, others like DRM plattforms like Steam which expect you to log into an account every time you want to play something, but in return offer a huge number of games connected to your account, and additional fetures. In the end I't say that (this kind of) DRM is just a minor inconvenience: You do it once, and unless something unexpected happens you can play your game. If you liked the game don't let the activation procedure stop you from enjoying it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thewood1 Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 I buy a new laptop every year, sometimes sooner. I am also upgrading things like RAM and video drivers. I have had the DRM kick off for simple audio driver update. I have a first name relationship with the help desk. I am always hesitant when doing anything with my PC. It has gotten better with the latest versions of the DRM, but I was at a point of using 3-4 activations a year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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