Kelzhat Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Hello all, i bought today cm black sea - at first it is a great game - i have all the other cm games and this one is the best - great job to you designers and thanks for the great game. I have al ittle question - i played the training campaign and after my tanks hit the enemy tanks at the shooting range i can´t find any hit decals on the enemy tanks/ vehicles?! Is this a bug? I read that this game use the combat mission 3.0 engine where the hit decals are implemented but i dont found any hit decals at this time?! Many thanks 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AttorneyAtWar Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Make sure shaders are enabled with ALT+R. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Wenman Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 (edited) Yeah make sure shaders are on, it might also be worth exiting the game and then restarting as I'm sure I've read a thread somewhere where somebody didn't get the decals showing initially. But they are in game for sure. My high viz decals, showing hits from a M2 HMG P Edited February 20, 2015 by Pete Wenman 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelzhat Posted February 20, 2015 Author Share Posted February 20, 2015 oh thanks that was the reason :-) many thanks :-) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AttorneyAtWar Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 oh thanks that was the reason :-) many thanks :-) Happy to help! Keep your head down out there and hopefully you won't be seeing to many of those hit decals! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelzhat Posted February 20, 2015 Author Share Posted February 20, 2015 ok i tried it out - if a jeep was hit by a rifle grenade you can see a hit decal but on the tanks/ apc or so i found nothing :-( 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AttorneyAtWar Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 ok i tried it out - if a jeep was hit by a rifle grenade you can see a hit decal but on the tanks/ apc or so i found nothing :-( Hits from those kinds of weapons are really really small so you have to be a bit more thorough. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelzhat Posted February 20, 2015 Author Share Posted February 20, 2015 so i shot with the m2a3 to the jeeps and there i can see the hit decals but on enemy tanks/ apc is nothing 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelzhat Posted February 20, 2015 Author Share Posted February 20, 2015 hmmm but if a tank hit another tank i must the a hit decal or it is realy so small?? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelzhat Posted February 20, 2015 Author Share Posted February 20, 2015 ok i tried it out - if a jeep was hit by a rifle grenade you can see a hit decal but on the tanks/ apc or so i found nothing :-( sorry i mean that if my tank hit an enemy tank/ apc there is no hit decal but if my infanterie hit with a rifle grenade a jeep there is a hit decal - also if my m2a3 hit the jeep there is also a hit decal to see 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelzhat Posted February 20, 2015 Author Share Posted February 20, 2015 (edited) With hit decals from m2a3 Without hit decal - this tank was hit by a abraham tank so i think there must be a hit decal Also no hit decal - also hit by a tank Edited February 20, 2015 by Kelzhat 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akd Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 I have found that hit decals sometimes get lost under outer polygons, and can still be found by carefully moving the camera until you clip into the 3D model. However, sometimes they just seem to get lost altogether. If you see a spot where hit decals are consistently disappearing, you might want to post a report here, as this can indicate a damage model bug (especially if ERA is not hit/removed and decals are appearing behind the ERA). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelzhat Posted February 20, 2015 Author Share Posted February 20, 2015 I tried the training campaign mission 2 and there is also no decals on apc or tanks - only on the jeeps you can see hit decals - but never on tanks or apc so i think this is the bug who akd wrote! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thewood1 Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 I have to agree that the decals seem to be getting lost somewhere. Sometimes I see them and sometimes I can't find them. I never had this issue in CMRT. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Canadian Cat Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 There is definitely an issue with ERA blocks not having hit decal on them but the underlying armour does for some vehicles in some cases. In the case where you cannot find hit decals have a look under the ERA block. If they are there report it - please. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelzhat Posted February 21, 2015 Author Share Posted February 21, 2015 Hi all - what is era blocks and how can i have a look under this blocks? Where i must report this bug? greetings 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitehot78 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 There is definitely an issue with ERA blocks not having hit decal on them but the underlying armour does for some vehicles in some cases. In the case where you cannot find hit decals have a look under the ERA block. If they are there report it - please. But, an era block should be exploded if it has a hit decal under it? In my experience I noticed that russian tanks aren't doing good with exploded era and hit decals. Mostly I can't find where the penetration occurred and end up like in the screenshot the op posted. Probably has to do with these models being kinda complex, with era blocks made up by several different shapes and so on. Yet, seems a feature still half-broken to me 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelzhat Posted February 21, 2015 Author Share Posted February 21, 2015 But have apc also era blocks? i dont think so - and there are evena lso no hit decals - no in the rear, bottom or in front?! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thewood1 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 I had a BTR-82 fired on my a .50 cal and small decals appeared. The same BTR-82 fired its 30mm at a stryker and killed it. No decals on the stryker. There is something going on the autocannons and decals. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggum15 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Hopefully this will be fixed in 1.02 ! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antaress73 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Sometimes they show sometines they dont.. A tow-2B .. Two t-72s dstroyed.. Both turret top hits .. (Another was saved by the little kontakt-5 tiles on the turret top) .. One showed a huge hole on the commander's hatch the other.. Nothing at all 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Canadian Cat Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Hi all - what is era blocks and how can i have a look under this blocks? Where i must report this bug? greetingsSome vehicles have what look like bricks on the outside - the Bradleys show it off very well but they are on various tanks too. If you move the camera through a model you can see the inside. If you do it just right you can actually see the armor underneath the ERA blocks. If you do that and find that there are hit decals on the armour under the blocks but the block is still there that is a bug. It is possible for the blocks to not trigger and have a hit decal of their own on them too.I think if you start posing screen shots and game saves here that would be a good start. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Canadian Cat Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 But, an era block should be exploded if it has a hit decal under it? In my experience I noticed that russian tanks aren't doing good with exploded era and hit decals. Mostly I can't find where the penetration occurred and end up like in the screenshot the op posted. Probably has to do with these models being kinda complex, with era blocks made up by several different shapes and so on. Yet, seems a feature still half-broken to meExactly that is the bug. Yes probably it is due to the different shapes etc. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanir Ausf B Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Yet, seems a feature still half-broken to me.I see it as half-perfect. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 To give a less cryptic explanation of 'ERA' for newbies , it stands for 'explosive reactive armor'. Its something of an explosives sandwich (a much simplified description). A shaped charge projectile hits it and the ERA block explosion is supposed to disrupt the HEAT jet before it penetrates the main armor. There's different types. T64BV has lost of small blocks, Bradley has big bulky cubes, Abrams has the cubes with a second overlay of thin curved ERA plates. T84 Oblot and T90 have ERA built right into the bow! Properly-designed ERA is not supposed to be set off by small caliber weapons strikes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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