LiveNoMore Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 I don't know if I missed this question already, but where are the British and Canadian troops in CMFI? They played a major part in the campaign. I looked in the editor and there are only US troops. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukeFF Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 They obviously haven't been modeled yet. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
womble Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 I don't know if I missed this question already... Yep, you did. ...where are the British and Canadian troops in CMFI? They played a major part in the campaign. I looked in the editor and there are only US troops. FI covers a small section of the fighting in Sicily, so far. It is the base game for a "family" of modules and, like the CMBN family, commonwealth troops will be added in future modules. CMBN only had US and German forces. Why are you surprised the commonwealth forces aren't in? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 CMBN only had US and German forces. Why are you surprised the commonwealth forces aren't in? UK players always gripe if their guys are present everywhere. If BFC did a game on the Whitehouse Presidential bedroom, they'd be asking, "Where are the Tommies, why were they left out?" Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
womble Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 UK players always gripe if their guys are present everywhere. If BFC did a game on the Whitehouse Presidential bedroom, they'd be asking, "Where are the Tommies, why were they left out?" Michael Well I wouldn't. Wasn't it only the Canadians who've seen the inside of the Whitehouse? Or were they British troops stationed in Canada? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 Well I wouldn't. Wasn't it only the Canadians who've seen the inside of the Whitehouse? Or were they British troops stationed in Canada? Since you ask, Churchill stayed in the Whitehouse on at least two occasions. I think Brooke may have been there at least once as well. But they were good guests and didn't burn the place down...in spite of Churchill's cigars. Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
para Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 I understand Robert Ross, who is one of our chaps, visited in 1812. He may have been smoking in bed because he caused one hell of a fire 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Canadian Cat Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 Well I wouldn't. Wasn't it only the Canadians who've seen the inside of the Whitehouse? Or were they British troops stationed in Canada? Yeah, they were British regulars stationed in Canada - they had the ships to make the trip We, Canadians, still take credit for it though (at least those of us that know the story). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akd Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 I understand Robert Ross, who is one of our chaps, visited in 1812. He may have been smoking in bed because he caused one hell of a fire The Whitehouse was burned in 1814. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pord Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 Historically, which Allied force would you say played the biggest role in Italy? I'm not very familiar with WWII Italy, but I do love the game 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sublime Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 Thats very hard to say. You could make a case either for the Brits or US. I wouldn't really say it was more one or the other, it was both. Just like Normandy. Though the CW faced the bulk of German units initially and most the armor, the US breakout is a large part of what caused the general German retreat and disaster at Falaise. It's just like asking who did more to win in N Africa. You could make a very strong case for Montgomery and 8th Army (who I would give a little bit more credit for since they stopped the Germans at their most powerful) However the battle would probably have been drastically different without the US - even material wise with new Shermans, etc. But more than that, the Allied landings in Torch caught the Axis on two sides, and greatly contributed to the 'Tunisgrad' situation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
para Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 The Whitehouse was burned in 1814. I knew it was the 1812 war just didn't realise it occurrred in 1814. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sublime Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 Ironic to think how many republicans would love to see that happen again these days. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonS Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 UK players always gripe if their guys are present everywhere. If BFC did a game on the Whitehouse Presidential bedroom, they'd be asking, "Where are the Tommies, why were they left out?" Michael Presumably there'll be a few gripes if CM-Burma excludes the US or Chinese, even though the contribution of both those two nations was clearly worthless 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 Presumably there'll be a few gripes if CM-Burma excludes the US or Chinese, even though the contribution of both those two nations was clearly worthless Oh dear, another soul lost in delusion. Just to help you back onto the path to true enlightenment, you should consider the following: 1. The Chinese troops trained by Americans in Assam were turned into quite creditable fighters. 2. From about 1943 on most of the airpower in that theater was supplied by the US, and I am not including the stuff that was exclusively used in China. Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 Historically, which Allied force would you say played the biggest role in Italy? Commonwealth and US forces were roughly equal in strength. But IMO the French and the Poles were the best fighters. Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erwin Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 Definitely need the Poles at any Cassino scenario since they actually captured it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonS Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 1. The Chinese troops trained by Americans in Assam were turned into quite creditable fighters. Compared to what they had been, maybe. But if Burma had relied on the Chinese (or the US) for liberation, well, they'd still be waiting. 2. From about 1943 on most of the airpower in that theater was supplied by the US, and I am not including the stuff that was exclusively used in China. Transport a/c have nothing to do with CM. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeknodathon Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 not I just wanted to repeat the best bit 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 Compared to what they had been, maybe. But if Burma had relied on the Chinese (or the US) for liberation, well, they'd still be waiting. Which in any case would have had little or nothing to do with the ultimate defeat of Japan. Transport a/c have nothing to do with CM. Are you forgetting the 1st. Air Commando, which in addition to providing the transports in the theater, also provided most of the fighters, medium and heavy bombers? Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonS Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 Which in any case would have had little or nothing to do with the ultimate defeat of Japan. Largest successful land campaign? Sure. Nothing to do with it. It also had nothing to do with the first land crossing of the Antarctic, the cure for polio, or any of dozens of other pathetic and irrelevant attempts to change the topic. Are you forgetting the 1st. Air Commando, which in addition to providing the transports in the theater, also provided most of the fighters, medium and heavy bombers? No, not at all; 1st AC certainly provided the bulk of US airpower in Burma. But again, transports, heavy, and even medium bombers have what to do with CM again? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sublime Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 Compared to what they had been, maybe. But if Burma had relied on the Chinese (or the US) for liberation, well, they'd still be waiting. Based on what? The US island hopping campaign/naval offensive that on its own pretty much defeated Japan? Or the massive US contribution to Europe? Seems more like if the US hadn't been drawn into the war the Brits/CWs would have been waiting for liberation from the Russians, or there'd still be legal swastikas in Germany. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonS Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 I am greatly heartened that both you and Emrys are doing your level best to prove my point :cool: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 I am greatly heartened that both you and Emrys are doing your level best to prove my point Which is? That you woke up in a bad mood today and are being argumentative just for the sake of being argumentative? Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonS Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Is your scroll wheel broken? Presumably there'll be a few gripes if CM-Burma excludes the US 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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