rocketman Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 I just saw, within a couple of minutes, two smoke shells, from a 105 mm howitzer, literally bounce off the roof of a house. Bounce high aswell :eek: Didn't know shells of that caliber had that "in them", or is this a bug? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Radley Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 I don't know, but 'Bouncing howitzer smoke shells' is the kind of thing I expect to hear Yosemite Sam yell. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YankeeDog Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 I was actually just watching some documentary footage on the Military Channel a week or two ago that clearly showed smoke rounds fired from a tank bouncing off the ground after impact. Bounces were quite low, though -- more of a tumble along the ground than a high trajectory into the air. Now, how common this should be, and whether a smoke round would bounce off something like a roof, I have no idea... I assume (but don't know for sure) that only base-ejecting type smoke shells could possibly bounce -- my understanding is that this type of shell is designed to stay more or less intact after impact and emit smoke. As I understand it, white phosphorus shells usually have a small explosive charge that detonates on impact, designed to scatter the white phosphorous and create a rapidly forming smoke cloud via reaction with the oxygen in the air. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 That roof must have been made of some tough material! Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenAsJade Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Video! GaJ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketman Posted November 17, 2011 Author Share Posted November 17, 2011 That roof must have been made of some tough material! Michael It bounces approx. 100 m! One would think it would bury itself in the roof, or shatter into pieces. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketman Posted November 17, 2011 Author Share Posted November 17, 2011 Video! GaJ I have a save - how do I turn it into a video? Noob question, I know... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisND Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Unknown to you, that house contained an illegal rubber manufacturing lab. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketman Posted November 17, 2011 Author Share Posted November 17, 2011 Unknown to you, that house contained an illegal rubber manufacturing lab. So, that was the secret German weapon, not the V2-rockets 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketman Posted November 17, 2011 Author Share Posted November 17, 2011 I have a save - how do I turn it into a video? Noob question, I know... I figured out how to make a video. Watch in 1080p and full screen: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank Hunter Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Wow that looks funny. =) It's a bug for sure. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketman Posted November 17, 2011 Author Share Posted November 17, 2011 Wow that looks funny. =) It's a bug for sure. It sure does. Thing is, in a barrage of about 30 shells, all (three) that hit buildings did the "bouncy-thing". Maybe the roofs in the village La Valance is made of some special stuff. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chainsaw Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 whos UI mod do you use? the UI looks damn nice? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClarkWGriswold Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Okay, that was weird. I'm pretty sure that's a bug. No way in the world a shell that big would come straight down and bounce off the roof like that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Hah, that's funny! Did you follow if they landed anywhere on map and if they emitted smoke there? FWIW bouncing shells as such is nothing special - with a shallow impact angle, slow fuse and hard ground it's possible that the shell bounces off before detonating. Not quite like that, though! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt Schultz Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 I want to see a round bounce from one roof to another, and then bounce off that one. New contest to get a double bank shot into an open Priest. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatmasta Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 That was nice! the bouncing is prolly a bug but are dud's modeled in the game? I think they should be, quite a lot of arty shells don't explode as they should. Or might go off later. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClarkWGriswold Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 I want to see a round bounce from one roof to another, and then bounce off that one. New contest to get a double bank shot into an open Priest.Off the roof, over the fence, nothing but net. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sburke Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Nah that roof was an early experiment in teflon. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketman Posted November 17, 2011 Author Share Posted November 17, 2011 I want to see a round bounce from one roof to another, and then bounce off that one. New contest to get a double bank shot into an open Priest. I dare anyone try to set this up in the editor and try. If they succeed they should be treated to a free Commonwealth module by BFC. Apart from eternal internet (or at least CMBN-nuts) fame. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketman Posted November 17, 2011 Author Share Posted November 17, 2011 Hah, that's funny! Did you follow if they landed anywhere on map and if they emitted smoke there? FWIW bouncing shells as such is nothing special - with a shallow impact angle, slow fuse and hard ground it's possible that the shell bounces off before detonating. Not quite like that, though! Yep, the two other shells (not in video) both did this. After landing, they emitted smoke as they should. Not like the shell broke on impact :eek: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketman Posted November 17, 2011 Author Share Posted November 17, 2011 On a side note: I know next to nothing about ballistics. But to me the small weapons ricochettes sometimes fly all over the place. Did they do that IRL? Or is this another case of the "bouncies" - maybe surfaces of houses are somewhat mismodeled? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketman Posted November 17, 2011 Author Share Posted November 17, 2011 whos UI mod do you use? the UI looks damn nice? It's Juju's tweaked UI. Mind you, the movie was captured on a widescreen HD monitor. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenAsJade Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 I too have wondered about just how far the bullets richochet. My intuition about how much penetration a bullet has was completely wrong, so maybe my intuitaion about how far a bullet ricochets is completely wrong too! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winkelried Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 I too have wondered about just how far the bullets richochet. My intuition about how much penetration a bullet has was completely wrong, so maybe my intuitaion about how far a bullet ricochets is completely wrong too! We had a security distance of 5-6kms for 7.62mm, approx 3kms for 5.56mm and 1-2kms for 9mm pistols for direct fire - so ricochets would be a bit shorter, but probably still on the casual CMBN map :-) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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