danfrodo

I with good ol' Aragorn on this.  Guessing Patton.
Good posts (my) overnight.  5 planes in a week.  That's some good news.  Andiivka lost, but it was a pile of rubble anyway.  And as was pointed out, cost a division.  Yes, can be replaced, but it's still a division off the chessboard.  W replacements there could've been two divisions.  but there's just one, again.  
Steve made good point that I've been thinking about lately.  Headlines in the media are a very bad way to judge things.  And those headlines will say things like "Andiivka falls, can weary UKR fight on?" or some such.  I am sure similar headlines we're there for Normandy, as Steve said.  Same for N Afrika - El Alamein retreat by the brits, without realizing Rommel had an already unsustainable supply line that had just gotten ~600km longer.  The underlying big picture of the war did not change w Andiivka, despite the pants-wetting we will see from the press and some folks.  UKR can fight on, and at some point something breaks enough for one side that they negotiate and end to active hostilities.  but we're not even close to breaking for UKR, sadly for certain Putin-funded US House members.
 

6. Kill them all. 🧐
Forgot the most important one. 

1. Support Ukraine to continue to fight, even if that means sending what little we have left ourselves.
2. Rearm like mad, damn the economical consequences, no matter how painful they will be.
3. Make it clear to our societies that this is only the beginning of a very dark time.
4. Prepare for large scale war, because that's what we're heading for one way or the other. +
5. Stop acting as if we have a choice in the matter.

Great post. Really lifts my spirit. Thanks for that.

Further example, dousing of the RU narrative about a chaotic withdrawal. ZSU fell back in order. 

The Russians prepared far better than we thought, that's for sure. But they can't and they won't win. Denmark gave a good example by announcing all Danish artillery will be send to Ukraine. I hope other countries will following that grand gesture. Ukraine MUST prevail and it will. The Russians didn't learn much from their mistakes, don't believe their propaganda. They want us to believe that they are winning. They are not. They are bleeding. Badly.
The West is awake and will crush Putin and his thugs. It will take years, but we'll make them pay.  Patience and perseverance! If it takes another world war, so be it.

Well done, Denmark!

Ten to fifteen years in a Russian gulag, yeah big deal. Navalny was sentenced to an additional 19 years in a "special regime" colony last August, he got out in less than 7 months.

Good ol' canadians coming in voice of calm reason.  😀

I'm confused.  Where else would someone get something this stupid?  I used to work w a guy who would come in every day spouting whatever nonsense he heard on rightwing radio on his drive, only to be devastated, continually by his coworkers who simply fact checked his nonsense.  Kimbosbread does this all the time.  Here, he triumphantly announces that the aid not happening is all the fault of the guy trying to actually get the aid instead of the people holding the aid hostage.  

Completely not true.  Just a few GOPers could simply vote to pass the aid.  Last I checked 6 out of ~218 GOPers is all it takes.  Might make folks feel better to blame it on the crazies, but then why don't the allegedly sane major of GOPers simply vote to do the right thing?   The reality is that they vote as a block and simply refuse to do the right thing.

Hi from Argentina, as far as I can tell we no longer produce 155mm, just last year production of 105mm was reactivated after a decade or so and probably at a very low rate; there are a few articles discussing the possibility of producing 155mm again giving it´s high demand, but couldn't find anything about the actual feasibility of doing it.
On one hand given the profound economic crisis here I wouldn't bet much on our production capacity, on the other hand we currently have as much a pro US government as you can ask from Latin America, maybe there is a deal to be made.

I'm confused.  Where else would someone get something this stupid?  I used to work w a guy who would come in every day spouting whatever nonsense he heard on rightwing radio on his drive, only to be devastated, continually by his coworkers who simply fact checked his nonsense.  Kimbosbread does this all the time.  Here, he triumphantly announces that the aid not happening is all the fault of the guy trying to actually get the aid instead of the people holding the aid hostage.  

Completely not true.  Just a few GOPers could simply vote to pass the aid.  Last I checked 6 out of ~218 GOPers is all it takes.  Might make folks feel better to blame it on the crazies, but then why don't the allegedly sane major of GOPers simply vote to do the right thing?   The reality is that they vote as a block and simply refuse to do the right thing.

I'm confused.  Where else would someone get something this stupid?  I used to work w a guy who would come in every day spouting whatever nonsense he heard on rightwing radio on his drive, only to be devastated, continually by his coworkers who simply fact checked his nonsense.  Kimbosbread does this all the time.  Here, he triumphantly announces that the aid not happening is all the fault of the guy trying to actually get the aid instead of the people holding the aid hostage.  

If Ukrainian will collapses over this one small town, in a slow motion attack that has taken 4 months to culminate, then we are backing the wrong horse in this whole thing.  The US and West cannot supply the Will to Fight - that is all on the Ukrainians.  They have shown incredible resilience for two years and I personally doubt this will break them.  But if it does, or there are serious signs of it collapsing, then stopping aid starts to make sense because it would likely simply fall into the hands of the Russian's.  If the Ukraine are the Government of Afghanistan then it won't matter how much aid we end up sending them, this war is already lost - of course this the narrative being pushed in some camps.
I think that like Bakhmut and Severodontesk, the UA will re-set, new lines will be drawn and the RA will kill itself trying to take the next smallville in the Ukrainian countryside.  My money is that the RA will run out of gas before Ukraine runs out of small towns.

Biden gave BILLIONS AND BILLIONS in aid.  They didn't give as much or as fast as we wanted, speaking for most folks on this forum, but it was still a huge amount.  Now the GOP is blocking aid completely, meaning GIVING ZERO.  Do you even hear yourself?  Biden is trying to give MORE AID.  the GOP is blocking it.  Once again, you make zero sense.  Once again, you've gotten worked up on some ridiculous right wing bizarro world talking point and don't even stop to see if it evens makes the most basic sense.

Biden gave BILLIONS AND BILLIONS in aid.  They didn't give as much or as fast as we wanted, speaking for most folks on this forum, but it was still a huge amount.  Now the GOP is blocking aid completely, meaning GIVING ZERO.  Do you even hear yourself?  Biden is trying to give MORE AID.  the GOP is blocking it.  Once again, you make zero sense.  Once again, you've gotten worked up on some ridiculous right wing bizarro world talking point and don't even stop to see if it evens makes the most basic sense.

WTF are you even talking about???  Biden admin has been trying to get more aid to UKR and it's blocked by a group of GOP house members.  This is common knowledge to anyone w any concept of reality.  Have you been watching fox news & newsmax again?   You, once again, come up with fantasy world nonsense.  And instead of getting mad at me for this post, maybe you should be angry at the people how fill your head w this utter nonsense.

Yeah, I know how it works.  And instead of working to electing a sane speaker they took some crazy christo-taliban in a suit.

Well said.  Sorry for my nasty tone.  I will blame the shingles vax I got this morning, which seems to have me rather touchy.  I stand behind the theme of I said but do wish I had said it much more diplomatically.

I'm confused.  Where else would someone get something this stupid?  I used to work w a guy who would come in every day spouting whatever nonsense he heard on rightwing radio on his drive, only to be devastated, continually by his coworkers who simply fact checked his nonsense.  Kimbosbread does this all the time.  Here, he triumphantly announces that the aid not happening is all the fault of the guy trying to actually get the aid instead of the people holding the aid hostage.  

Well said.  Sorry for my nasty tone.  I will blame the shingles vax I got this morning, which seems to have me rather touchy.  I stand behind the theme of I said but do wish I had said it much more diplomatically.

Good ol' canadians coming in voice of calm reason.  😀

Yeah, I know how it works.  And instead of working to electing a sane speaker they took some crazy christo-taliban in a suit.