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    Der Zeitgeist got a reaction from Chibot Mk IX in How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?   
    Thanks!
    I think my favourite ones so far were these two:ย ๐Ÿ˜„


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    Der Zeitgeist got a reaction from Beleg85 in How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?   
    Thanks!
    I think my favourite ones so far were these two:ย ๐Ÿ˜„


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    Der Zeitgeist reacted to Butschi in How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?   
    In isolation? Maybe not. But look through your last x posts and be honest to yourself how many of them were actually meaningful contributions to discuss and understand what is going on and which were mostly venting frustration and name-calling.
    See, and this is why I made such a post. Scholz' way of communicating is far below optimal and there a quite a few things where we could have an interesting discussion about what he decided and what he didn't decide. I would very much like to do that.
    Except we actually can't because some people here instantly go into rant mode and that precludes any fruitful discussion. As I said several times already, criticize Scholz as much as you like, there are enough reasons to do that. What annoys me, though, is double standards, dishonesty and this whole "everyone who doesn't share my opinion is in league with Putin!"-business.
    I'm okay with calling a politician spineless. What you guys actually mean, though, is, he doesn't decide the way I want. The SPD (and I didn't vote for them) is clearly not a bunch of Putin friends. They happen to believe in different things than you do. And before you answer: "but Schroeder!" He is just one guy. And no, deciding against giving tanks to Ukraine is not hurting NATO. It may hurt Ukraine (I say "may" because the discussion here in this forum is still ongoing). But, and sorry if that doesn't sit well with everyone here, NATO is an alliance for mutual defense not for arms delivery. The NATO treaty does not say that if one country or several send weapons to some country then others have to follow. And neither do any EU treaties. It hurts relations between some of the member nations, true, but that is not the same thing. If you have a different opinion - see "double standards" above. You could as well accuse the Polish government of hurting NATO for going ahead without getting an ok beforehand. You could, I don't.
    Lastly, you should consider this: I don't know what the decision will be in the end. But Scholz, for all his failings, is still the democratically elected leader of the German government. I may not be ok with what he decides but that's democracy. If he decides to not give tanks to Ukraine, he is well within his rights to do so. That is his call to make, not Selensky's, not Duda's and not Biden's. Please respect that. We can, of course, discuss whether that would be a good decision.
    The part of this conflict that is about national sovereignty and democracy would be completely meaningless if we can't respect the decisions of democratically elected governments of sovereign nations.
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    Der Zeitgeist got a reaction from Beleg85 in How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?   
    Scholz's impulse is supporting Ukraine only to the level where they can barely hold and not outright lose the war. Everything else, like actually providing Ukraine with the means to go back to pre-2014 frontlines, is completely out of his comfort zone.
    It's the classic post-90s German mindset, where military power is a means to "protect" and "stabilize", but not something to achieve anything that could be seen as a military victory.
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    Der Zeitgeist got a reaction from Huba in How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?   
    Thanks!
    I think my favourite ones so far were these two:ย ๐Ÿ˜„


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    Der Zeitgeist got a reaction from The Steppenwulf in How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?   
    It was essential to be the last. Like I said many times before: It's the fear of Alleingรคnge all the way down.ย 
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    Der Zeitgeist got a reaction from LongLeftFlank in How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?   
    It was essential to be the last. Like I said many times before: It's the fear of Alleingรคnge all the way down.ย 
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    Der Zeitgeist got a reaction from The Steppenwulf in How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?   
    Just wait until they find out that the Russian government has to notify the US of any strategic bomber losses there, as stipulated by the New START treaty.ย ๐Ÿ˜„


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    Der Zeitgeist got a reaction from Chibot Mk IX in How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?   
    Just wait until they find out that the Russian government has to notify the US of any strategic bomber losses there, as stipulated by the New START treaty.ย ๐Ÿ˜„


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    Der Zeitgeist got a reaction from MOS:96B2P in How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?   
    I hope they don't waste their time and resources going for the Russian power grid.
    More useful to try and smuggle a mortar team or some drones to Saratov...

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    Der Zeitgeist got a reaction from Artkin in How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?   
    Just wait until they find out that the Russian government has to notify the US of any strategic bomber losses there, as stipulated by the New START treaty.ย ๐Ÿ˜„


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    Der Zeitgeist got a reaction from dan/california in How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?   
    Just wait until they find out that the Russian government has to notify the US of any strategic bomber losses there, as stipulated by the New START treaty.ย ๐Ÿ˜„


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    Der Zeitgeist got a reaction from Kinophile in How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?   
    Just wait until they find out that the Russian government has to notify the US of any strategic bomber losses there, as stipulated by the New START treaty.ย ๐Ÿ˜„


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    Der Zeitgeist got a reaction from rocketman in How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?   
    Just wait until they find out that the Russian government has to notify the US of any strategic bomber losses there, as stipulated by the New START treaty.ย ๐Ÿ˜„


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    Der Zeitgeist got a reaction from LongLeftFlank in How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?   
    Just wait until they find out that the Russian government has to notify the US of any strategic bomber losses there, as stipulated by the New START treaty.ย ๐Ÿ˜„


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    Der Zeitgeist got a reaction from Zeleban in How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?   
    Just wait until they find out that the Russian government has to notify the US of any strategic bomber losses there, as stipulated by the New START treaty.ย ๐Ÿ˜„


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    Der Zeitgeist got a reaction from hcrof in How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?   
    Just wait until they find out that the Russian government has to notify the US of any strategic bomber losses there, as stipulated by the New START treaty.ย ๐Ÿ˜„


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    Der Zeitgeist got a reaction from Huba in How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?   
    Just wait until they find out that the Russian government has to notify the US of any strategic bomber losses there, as stipulated by the New START treaty.ย ๐Ÿ˜„


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    Der Zeitgeist got a reaction from G.I. Joe in How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?   
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    Der Zeitgeist got a reaction from Zeleban in How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?   
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    Der Zeitgeist got a reaction from LongLeftFlank in How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?   
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    Der Zeitgeist got a reaction from Raptor341 in How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?   
    I hope they don't waste their time and resources going for the Russian power grid.
    More useful to try and smuggle a mortar team or some drones to Saratov...

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    Der Zeitgeist got a reaction from dan/california in How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?   
    I hope they don't waste their time and resources going for the Russian power grid.
    More useful to try and smuggle a mortar team or some drones to Saratov...

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    Der Zeitgeist got a reaction from Astrophel in How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?   
    I hope they don't waste their time and resources going for the Russian power grid.
    More useful to try and smuggle a mortar team or some drones to Saratov...

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    Der Zeitgeist got a reaction from beardiebloke in How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?   
    I hope they don't waste their time and resources going for the Russian power grid.
    More useful to try and smuggle a mortar team or some drones to Saratov...

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