Buck72

Absolutely. Much can be learned from the Cold War team by the FR team. Although I suspect the latter is as frustrated about the whole shambles as I am.

I was afraid of this situation from the start. After all the delay over the past years, we're now in the so-called pre-order phase which can be dragged on for months and months, like RtV. This module has been so badly handled that nothing surprises me anymore. Most people moved on to Cold War. While still a month away, there's at least a release date for that.

So another year drifts past and still no "Fire & Rubble".... no communication, no nothing.

The waiting for this module has been ridiculously long. The delays countless and endless. The priority seems to have been low, although we are led to believe otherwise. My confidence in what we are told is nil. I'm too lazy to make a list of all promises and announcements concerning the expected time of release through the past few years, but I'm sure it's quite a list by now. Reminding BF about those promises often resulted in reactions of ridicule, irritation and hostility, but I'm past caring about that. The release dates of BF have become the laughingstock of wargaming sites like Wargamer.
Even now we've arrived in the autumn of 2020 we still know nothing about the period of release, apart from that it can go 'extremely fast' when all the work has been done. Which is basically the same story as we've been told in the beginning of the year. To me all this makes an impression of utter unreliability. Harsh words, but I have no others left for this company.
I'm truly amazed I'm one of the few people who's getting angry about all this. Perhaps it's just me and caring too much. I'm sure this will get me the usual Flak and I just don't care. Just finish the damn module!
 

What I'm asking is a solid release date. This update sounds too much like that of February to my liking. 

So yet another month goes by and.. yet again.. and again and again... nothing. Soon, I'll give up even looking entirely. What a shame. 

So yet another month goes by and.. yet again.. and again and again... nothing. Soon, I'll give up even looking entirely. What a shame. 

Visiting this site is like Groundhog Day 😉

I note that that Battlefront have amended the home page and now say that the "Rome To Victory" module is now expected in September - rather than August. And so it continues... ho hum. I've almost given up caring.
 

Whining has more to do with no information, let alone a simple revised ETA, being provided. It's not rocket science - revise a slipped March deadline by providing a *timely* update of... July or October or early-2020 [pick a date]. Posting every other month that we're almost there isn't an effective way of communicating with your customers.
It's not that complicated. What you want to avoid is the mishandling of expectations. Said expectations being set initially, not by the customer, but by the developer.
It's not difficult... post an an update before you blow past the last one. Otherwise, you mangle expectations.
Anyhow, it is what it is. It's obviously more effective to be reactive rather than to be proactive with deliverables.
Plus, it's lot more fun to be wading through 22 pages of my useless posts than it would be to reference a locked thread of *timely* updates from the developer.
Now let's back to eating our young...

Again... beating a dead horse....
Roadmap
deliverable A         date X deliverable B         date Y deliverable C         date Z Don't need to know details.
Absolutely prefer periodic updates  that are better than quarterly. We seem to be no farther ahead than we were when SF2 was released in December...
This wouldn't be a problem if this was known months ago. I'm not sure what to make of an update that is even less informative than the previous one issued last Jan/Feb.

I can totally appreciate and sympathise that  things do not go according to plan. Whilst we are all waiting for the patch to be released, i'm sure none of us want it released until it is thoroughly tested. My only gripe, time and again, is to do with communication, or lack of, between developer and user.
BFC Elvis has now posted above, which may have taken him about 5 minutes to do, if BFC had posted this two or three weeks ago then at least it shows some thought towards communication and transparency between the two parties, and goes a long way to keeping everyone onside i believe personally.
 
regards
 
slippy

Sure seems like this is the story we hear with each update on this patch...
- Its more work than we expected
- OOBs are hard
- We keep finding stuff in testing
I'm really not sure what to think.  I go away for a while, play other games, come back and see what's going on...not much  I want the freaking patch done so we can start hoping on new modules.  Alas, I suspect we might be years away from modules for some games.  If I had a vote, which I don't, I'd say scrap everything after the patch and start CM3.

Seriously guys...
 

I am now, to be honest, getting tad dispirited and impatient for the patches or news about their progress.

One of the things that have been grating me is the fact that there's no indication on the website of these, more or less game breaking, bugs being present. By trying the demo of CMFI for instance I could easily be led to believe that things are functioning as they ought to be in the current version. When in reality, I could be waiting for a few months to have the game I paid $80 for to take the shape of what was advertised. That's the real kicker here, lack of information, not the very long delay to see the issues addressed. I wonder what happened to the notion expressed in the sales policy that an informed customer is a happy customer. 

Watch out, you will be accused of being a pushy ingrate with posts like that.

some new info about patch status could be cool 

Definitely. That they don't even bother to take a few minutes to write a few lines about why the "before March" release did not happen is really bad.

i have said it before and i understand a lot of people do not agree, but their public relations absolutely sucks 

Well, that didn't happen did it! How many MORE months of endless waiting to add to the YEARS that have already gone by? 

Well, that didn't happen did it! How many MORE months of endless waiting to add to the YEARS that have already gone by? 

Well i know, i was trying to be sarcastic  I wanted to start peiper campaign again but with updated game and I'm checking forum almost on daily basis and I'm kinda tired after few months 😕

When a patch is 2 years in the making I start to question their ability to deliver, regardless of how long they take.