slysniper

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I am going to host a Tournament over at "A few good Men" site and just wanted to post here to give others who might not use that site a chance to get involved.

The format will be new, in that you will be given a selected force. Your mission will be to do the best you can with the situation you have been given and the scoring will be given out to the top 50 percent from each side of the battle.

So in otherwards, your side could be very challenging, but perform better than 50 percent of the players playing that side of the battle and you have won and will be given a point value as to how you have done.

Winners will get a score of somewhere between 80 to 100 points per match depending on how they have performed to each other. so best player will receive 100 points, lowest winner will receive 80 points, and everyone else is somewhere in between.

Scoring in scenarios will be your score minus your opponents score (as to how you will be selected for the top 50%).


Each round you will be in charge of a different Nations forces, so skill with all forces will be a factor.


The first scenario is ready, a Marine excort team with additional elite units attached are in a small town for a pick up when they are attacked by a Syrian mech recon company bent on their distruction.

quick and intense (battle will be 10 -15 minutes in length.)

One day so far and we have 13 people wanting to participate.
get involved if you have not done something like this before. 
The only outcome is you possible having fun.
I will be starting this within the week, but late comers will be welcome also.

I am going to host a Tournament over at "A few good Men" site and just wanted to post here to give others who might not use that site a chance to get involved.

The format will be new, in that you will be given a selected force. Your mission will be to do the best you can with the situation you have been given and the scoring will be given out to the top 50 percent from each side of the battle.

So in otherwards, your side could be very challenging, but perform better than 50 percent of the players playing that side of the battle and you have won and will be given a point value as to how you have done.

Winners will get a score of somewhere between 80 to 100 points per match depending on how they have performed to each other. so best player will receive 100 points, lowest winner will receive 80 points, and everyone else is somewhere in between.

Scoring in scenarios will be your score minus your opponents score (as to how you will be selected for the top 50%).


Each round you will be in charge of a different Nations forces, so skill with all forces will be a factor.


The first scenario is ready, a Marine excort team with additional elite units attached are in a small town for a pick up when they are attacked by a Syrian mech recon company bent on their distruction.

quick and intense (battle will be 10 -15 minutes in length.)

No, we need to find out who he is playing against and get him testing the game, he need to change because at the moment he is using the dark side of the force.

No, we need to find out who he is playing against and get him testing the game, he need to change because at the moment he is using the dark side of the force.

Until CMx3 IS DEVELOPED, We will not know what Steve and BF is seeing as the next important step as to what the future game engine should include.
I hope that the graphics do step up to similar levels that we see out there in other games.
but that is not the make or break of the game for me.
I am sure, what ever they produce. It will somehow reflect the games focus that I see that they have in even a more realistic manor than it does now. 
And that focus is: Putting you the player in a tactical environment and commanding your units to respond in a realistic manor to the combat they are engaged in.
That is what their game does that hardly any other comes close to.
 
So for me,  I like hearing suggestions from players that would make the game even better as to that focus.
 
GRAPHICS, TIME FRAME, UNITS, and all such things add flavor to the product. But it is not the core of what they give us. that's just the window dressing
 

where are these other wargames that make CM so dated.
Other than graphics, Which CM is behind on - there is still nothing out there that compares as far as I am concerned.
But please, really please. Show me the light.

where are these other wargames that make CM so dated.
Other than graphics, Which CM is behind on - there is still nothing out there that compares as far as I am concerned.
But please, really please. Show me the light.

where are these other wargames that make CM so dated.
Other than graphics, Which CM is behind on - there is still nothing out there that compares as far as I am concerned.
But please, really please. Show me the light.

Actually, I did some testing to see how effective arty is in WWII
vs the same size arty in CMSF
 
My test was to run armor through arty barrages and see how effective it was. There was no point targeting envolved.
I was actually very pleased with how much armor was damaged in the WWII test.  A few lucky kills and many more immobilized.
 
The modern era stuff , the tanks were pretty immune.
Of course there is precision arty that is very effective vs stationary tanks in the new era stuff.
 
But in general, the results looked pretty realistic in the testing I done to what I understand for what one should expect.

A ambush command sure would be nice.
One of my present methods is have my unit wait out of the line of sight, , move it into line of sight trying to time it so that it engages for approx. the amount of time I want in the minute turn. next turn, immediatly get the heck out of there. (this method can be pretty successful)

A ambush command sure would be nice.
One of my present methods is have my unit wait out of the line of sight, , move it into line of sight trying to time it so that it engages for approx. the amount of time I want in the minute turn. next turn, immediatly get the heck out of there. (this method can be pretty successful)

Good suggestions.
Most players need to learn to use recon more, somebody has to be sacrificed for the good of the whole.
You always need to find the enemy location first, before risking moving any units of value.
find / pin / maneuver to killing positions / eliminate. (This is the basics no matter the terrain.)
Yskonyn, it sounds like you have the tendency to want to move to contact in force, this is not a tactic that plays out well in these battles. (That is a tactic in real world situations where you have a massive advantage - that is never the case in most cm battles)

Actually, I did some testing to see how effective arty is in WWII
vs the same size arty in CMSF
 
My test was to run armor through arty barrages and see how effective it was. There was no point targeting envolved.
I was actually very pleased with how much armor was damaged in the WWII test.  A few lucky kills and many more immobilized.
 
The modern era stuff , the tanks were pretty immune.
Of course there is precision arty that is very effective vs stationary tanks in the new era stuff.
 
But in general, the results looked pretty realistic in the testing I done to what I understand for what one should expect.

Its one of those situations where, show me that it happens all the time before I get worked up about it. If you can show it happening at some type of unusual rate, then its something to worry about.
One time is , wow that was cool - move on.
I had a lone survivor on a heavy machine gun, pinned, suppressed and being fired on, manage to return fire and kill at least 30 assaulting troops on his location. The bad part of all that was I was the assaulting side of the situation.
Should it of happened per game mechanics. NO
but it did, it was one of those moments where the game did a unusual thing. (it was a medal of honor moment) it was pretty cool actually.
Has the game ever done it again in the years that have followed, nothing even close.
Move on and drop it unless this is a reoccurring problem.

foxholes and trenches will also work well against direct fire with the hide and pause set on the unit.
The issue of course being that they are worthless as to returning fire.
 
But the tactic I use often in h2h fights is, Hide my men and let the enemy blast away, especially if I have a trench system.
I can crawl my men away from pinning type of effects.
The important part is, having other friendlies, normally farther away. concealed but keeping a eye on the enemy and set to open up on any enemy unit wanting to rush the defenses.
I have many a win because the enemy thinks they have my men pinned, they rush my trenches. I see the attack and unhide my units in the  trenches and engage the enemy at close range.
guess who wins the fire fight in those situations.
 
 

personally, that is what makes the game fun, for me anyway. There is just enough unpredictability that one cannot guarantee a move or a event. the game will throw in unplanned results as to what your hopes are for outcomes. It really does mimic life in a artificial way.

Its one of those situations where, show me that it happens all the time before I get worked up about it. If you can show it happening at some type of unusual rate, then its something to worry about.
One time is , wow that was cool - move on.
I had a lone survivor on a heavy machine gun, pinned, suppressed and being fired on, manage to return fire and kill at least 30 assaulting troops on his location. The bad part of all that was I was the assaulting side of the situation.
Should it of happened per game mechanics. NO
but it did, it was one of those moments where the game did a unusual thing. (it was a medal of honor moment) it was pretty cool actually.
Has the game ever done it again in the years that have followed, nothing even close.
Move on and drop it unless this is a reoccurring problem.

Adding new units from another nation is what makes a module  just that for me. If they do nothing more than add a few units to a existing country I am disappointed. That feels like nothing more than a scenario pack in a way.

Most of the Scenarios focus on the new available units.
If you have no interest in them, then I can see why you lack a desire for the game.
 
The scenarios that are placed in any of the games are generally a lot higher in quality than the after release ones and 3rd party stuff, in that they are reviewed and worked and reworked many times. I generally have a few that I love from each game release. 
There are a few really chose ones on this game release also, but I still have plenty to play before I can say which are my favorite.
 
For me, I could care less about which units I have or what time frame, I look for being given a battle that I have not played before that gives me a different type of challenge than what I have had to deal with in the past.
That can be done with one of a kind terrain, units with a different mix of weapons from what I am accustomed to playing with and things like that.
In that sense, this module delivers
 
 

Interesting, because someone is not actively playing the game and don't really care about updating the engine. When the later version of the game gets new material, they feel they should get the later version of the game for free. With the purchase of the material.
Where as BF sees it as they offer products for the latest version of their products.
Really, Ok, maybe it is a little harsh to the casual player that does not use the product much. But If $10 is the make or break of them buying the latest material and version of the game, then I doubt they are  serious about buying the game anyway.
And would anyone not serious about buying the game even be on this site. 
So get you $10 extra and get the game and start playing.
(dress up like a beggar and get the money for the whole game in a hour or 2) you will have better luck doing that than getting BF to change how they sell their product.
 
 

Interesting, because someone is not actively playing the game and don't really care about updating the engine. When the later version of the game gets new material, they feel they should get the later version of the game for free. With the purchase of the material.
Where as BF sees it as they offer products for the latest version of their products.
Really, Ok, maybe it is a little harsh to the casual player that does not use the product much. But If $10 is the make or break of them buying the latest material and version of the game, then I doubt they are  serious about buying the game anyway.
And would anyone not serious about buying the game even be on this site. 
So get you $10 extra and get the game and start playing.
(dress up like a beggar and get the money for the whole game in a hour or 2) you will have better luck doing that than getting BF to change how they sell their product.
 
 

Interesting, because someone is not actively playing the game and don't really care about updating the engine. When the later version of the game gets new material, they feel they should get the later version of the game for free. With the purchase of the material.
Where as BF sees it as they offer products for the latest version of their products.
Really, Ok, maybe it is a little harsh to the casual player that does not use the product much. But If $10 is the make or break of them buying the latest material and version of the game, then I doubt they are  serious about buying the game anyway.
And would anyone not serious about buying the game even be on this site. 
So get you $10 extra and get the game and start playing.
(dress up like a beggar and get the money for the whole game in a hour or 2) you will have better luck doing that than getting BF to change how they sell their product.
 
 

A few good men (Site) is pretty much centered on this game, yes there is other things there also, but the majority of activity is CMX2.
So yes there is other locations where discussions are had about the game, but the impact is the same everywhere, seldom is there a present need for much discussion since most everyone understands what they are dealing with and know what to expect.
But anytime there is a newer player, there is questions that they generally ask, but the answers are quick and precise since most on any of the sites can give a good explanation.
So no long discussions as when a game is new and many are putting out concepts instead of facts as to how they think the game plays.