Dittohead

Nope, count me out on this one, I don't live anywhere near the Pacific ocean. Pacifist no need to pray for my forgiveness.

Would the shatter gap save this tank?

I was reading a book on the 2nd AD and some tanker was talking about how he fired 4 rds from 200m at the side of a panther and did no damage. but the 5th one finally penetrated. Must have been shatter gap.

------------------ The box is locked, its Robot Fighting time. [This message has been edited by Dittohead (edited 01-26-2001).]

Its easy, deprive all german tanks of ammo. Get lots of conscript troops and surround them with water so they can't run off the board, and then gun them done from a safe distance. No shrecks no pzfsts

Try that new command, fix greyhound price. Worked for me.

I recently acquired Squadron/Signal publications "US Tank Destroyers in Action" Armor Number 36. Its interesting to note that the UN captured a Serbian M-18 following the Dayton Peace accords. They even have a picture of it. It says Slobodon only drove it on Sundays to execute prisoners. Now thats a classic. Looks like all original equipment, except for flames painted on the fenders. [This message has been edited by Dittohead (edited 01-24-2001).]

CM2: How the West was Won

Another day and another leak. Who's in charge of the plumbers. Must be a union outfit.

IIRC it will be changed for the FLAT wide open expanse of the steppes of Russia in CM2. Sounds like the Patton guys need more training. Wonder where we sign up for it.

The supporting infantry have Nokia Cell phones and call the tankers and let them know what direction the the AT teams are approaching.

Don't know any more references on the availability of tungsten for the British. I'll keep looking. Maybe Rexford knows a few more.

WO 291/491 Notes on R & A trials of British 3-in and German 8cm mortars. This paper was published in 1943. Times of flight, on targets about 2600 yards away, are typically around 24 seconds. "It is safe to conclude that the difference in maximum range using top service charge is small." "It is safe to conclude that both German bombs are more accurate in range than our own, and that the m.d. in range of either German bomb is probably more than half the m.d. in range of our own."

Ellis et al, 1962 "Victory in the West, Volume I: The Battle of Normandy", Maj. L F Ellis with Capt G R G Allen, Lt-Col A E Warhurst and ACM Sir James Robb, HMSO, 1962 This is the first volume of the British official history of the NW Europe campaign. Elsewhere in the text it is stated that "a small quantity" of 6-pdr DS ammunition was available for the landings, and that "it was late in August before there was any for the 17-pdr Hogg, 1978 "British & American Artillery of World War 2", Ian V. Hogg, A&AP, 1978 In this book, Hogg states that 6pdr APDS was issued in June 1944, although in "The Illustrated Encyclopedia of Ammunition", Apple Press, 1985, he says on p. 58 that it "appeared" in 1944, and on p. 151 that it was "first introduced for the 6-pdr" in 1943. Hogg, 1997 Source: "Tank Killers", Ian Hogg, Pan, 1997. Hogg gives the introduction dates for APDS as June 1944 for the 6-pdr and August 1944 for the 17-pdr, Hunnicut, 1978 "Sherman, A History of the American Medium Tank", R. P. Hunnicutt, Presidio Press, 1978, pages 559-570. Hunnicutt says "a few" 17 pdr APDS became available in Aug 44, but that the early rounds were "somewhat erratic", and less accurate than APCBC From Penetration Tables on: http://www.britwar.co.uk/salts/salt5.htm

Just wondering if vehicles like the Marder, Nashorn, WW, M-10, M-18, M-36 etc., have any disadvantages when shooting in the rain or snow. I know it must suck to be a crewmen with no protection from the elements.

Can't always look at averages. In my example some AT guns had up to 5 rds! But the average was 2+. Not sure on the priority for tungsten in AT gun units. <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Another item that is being overlooked is the availability of tungsten to US 76mm towed ATguns. I saw a thread the other day questioning if the AT gun shot tungsten as quickly as the tanks. Just did a quick sample of Aug 44, Sept and Oct 44.Using 9 guns. Aug - No tungsten Sept - anywhere from 5 to 0 rds. total 20 rds Oct. - same 5-0 rds but 23 total. It would seem odd that AT guns would have priority on the tungsten. But sounds like 5 rds would be excessive. I would think 1 max.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Under system properties Go into performance and try specifiying a max and min on your virtual memory. Try min max of 512 or something. I'm not exactly sure what the best range is, but I think it is multiples of your ram. And the other old standby is go to file system and set hard drive for use as a network server. Not sure if this speeds up the newer computers. [This message has been edited by Dittohead (edited 01-18-2001).]

It appears much more real (284 vs 256) then the so called peng thread that you started. ------------------ The box is locked, its Robot Fighting time.

Enough already, Everybody knows that the focus of modern Evil in todays world is Bill Clinton. ------------------ The box is locked, its Robot Fighting time.

I think 4 sacrificial Virgins dressed in white would be appropriate. ------------------ The box is locked, its Robot Fighting time.

Nope, in 1.2 Germans will be getting jet packs for their infantry and hover tanks for their armor.

Another item that is being overlooked is the availability of tungsten to US 76mm towed AT guns. I saw a thread the other day questioning if the AT gun shot tungsten as quickly as the tanks. Just did a quick sample of Aug 44, Sept and Oct 44. Using 9 guns. Aug - No tungsten Sept - anywhere from 5 to 0 rds. total 20 rds Oct. - same 5-0 rds but 23 total. It would seem odd that AT guns would have priority on the tungsten. But sounds like 5 rds would be excessive. I would think 1 max.

Looks Good, you would think Sept. would be somewhat lean with supplies still catching up to the front lines. How about the British?

Lots of good info here http://www.britwar.co.uk/salts/salt6.htm

From http://www.britwar.co.uk/salts/salt6.htm Lots and lots of good info on this site. WO 291/1263, "Firing Trials, 17pdr Sherman." "Table VI has been constructed which shows the probability of a hit on a target 5' wide by 2' high (representing a Panther turret) at various ranges using both types of round." Range(yds)APC% AP/DS % 400/ 90.5/ 56.6 600/ 73.0/ 34.2 800/ 57.3/ 21.9 1000/ 45.3/ 14.9 1500/ 25.4/ 7.1 Comments and corrections These assume that the MPI is placed centrally on the target. The trace from the AP/DS round was not seen in 73% of cases by a flank observer, and in no case from inside the tank.