Childress Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 Can these be softened to a less aggressive palette? Or removed by a hotkey? Really, they make things difficult. Besides needlessly complicating troop deployment they make you feel you're on a bad acid trip. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 One problem is your 'garish color' is the same no matter what time of day. What is annoying bright on a rainy evening can be difficult to see on high noon on a clear bright day. The color had been toned down, actually, during the Beta and got so many "we can't seen the setup zone" complaints that they reverted back to the original. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
womble Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 I'd rather see a directional border than a filled-in zone. The overlay makes placing unit bases a ballache at times. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erwin Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 Am honestly not trying to bait you re CM1, MikeyD. But CM1 had very easy to see and non-garish/distracting set-up zones. Was that no longer possible in CM2? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrapOne Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 Perhaps a toggle to show/hide setup zones? I find that the setup zones are, indeed, uniformly visible. Often they're so visible that I can hardly see the terrain that I'm setting up on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 I'd rather see a directional border than a filled-in zone. The overlay makes placing unit bases a ballache at times. +1 to that. Also, I detest the color of the covered arc, but am willing to put up with it when it is a narrow sector. But when I set a 360° arc to keep sensitive units from firing their personal arms, it really gets up my nose. Instead of a solid disc of color, I'd really prefer to see a narrow band around the circumference, just wide enough so that it does not escape the player's attention. Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockinHarry Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 I'd rather see a directional border than a filled-in zone. The overlay makes placing unit bases a ballache at times. +1 ..as well as for covered arcs. Worked all pretty well in CMX1 IMO. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pak40 Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 +1 ..as well as for covered arcs. Worked all pretty well in CMX1 IMO. Absolutely. CMx1 setup zones and covered arcs were perfect (thick outline only). Why fix what ain't broken? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyBucket Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 I do feel like I'm setting my guys up in a swamp. I'd like to see a return to the outlines as well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Other Means Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 Definitely for the covered arcs. For the setup zones though, you can have several different ones and troops may only be able to use one out of them, hence the colour. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
womble Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 Definitely for the covered arcs. For the setup zones though, you can have several different ones and troops may only be able to use one out of them, hence the colour. Oh please. You can have different coloured borders. Make them one Action Point wide so they're visible and distinct. Make them a geometric pattern (arrowheads pointing in, say) so you know which side of the line you're allowed to set up, though I'd've thought it was mostly obvious or at least the 'No go' cursor would soon let you know. You could even use a combination of colours and simple shapes to increase the distinctions, particularly for colour vision deficient people; I personally have to double-think when someone uses a mauve and a blue and a purple for zones I can use. Distinctiveness is not an argument against using borders rather than a fill. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Canadian Cat Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 I'm just not feeling this pain. Yes, the colours could be considered ugly but its only during setup so it just does not matter - to me. It has not caused me any problem with actually setting up troops. What issues are you guys seeing during setup? To me it seems like it should be pretty much the bottom of the feature back log. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrapOne Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 My issue: I can't actually see the terrain, especially under poor lighting conditions. A broader issue: providing this information solely through color/hue causes serious usability problems for people with visual impairment. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
womble Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 I'm just not feeling this pain. Yes, the colours could be considered ugly but its only during setup so it just does not matter - to me. It has not caused me any problem with actually setting up troops. What issues are you guys seeing during setup? Cover arcs are invisible. Unit bases are invisible, so getting the squads to settle on the right side of hedges etc is more difficult than it needs to be and telling where your squads are in the hodgepodge of dumped units at setup start can be tricky. It's painful to look at. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Canadian Cat Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 A broader issue: providing this information solely through color/hue causes serious usability problems for people with visual impairment. An excellent point - I keep forgetting about that. I see that others have similar experience too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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