LukeFF Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 Something I noticed that wasn't corrected in 1.20 is a problem with the XO model in the Scout formation for the Marines: as one can see here, he is wearing a vehicle helmet, instead of the "standard" combat helmet: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSX Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 This has been around forever, well since the Marines module came out and Im not sure why its never been fixed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkEzra Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 My understanding: The Recon element is a Vehicle-Infantry integrated team . The Recon Sqd leader wears Comm head gear like the LAV crew for rapid C&C. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt Joch Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 That was my understanding as well, the helmet is the correct one. The XO and certain other officers spend most of their time in a vehicle communicating with the rest of their unit, so the CVC helmet is more practical than a combat helmet. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chainsaw Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 When I was a mech squadleader in the Army we had the CVC helmet when in the APC to have intercom and then had to switch helmet to our standard helmet when dismounting... painful and problematic solution. we tested fighting in the CVC and it worked okey, but our CO didnt approve it so we had to continue swaping helmets all the time... :mad: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted August 29, 2009 Share Posted August 29, 2009 Remember, Brit Warrior infantry got around the problem by NOT dismounting the squad leader! :eek: Given that solution, the XO on the ground in an CVC doesn't seem so bad all of a sudden 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battlefront.com Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 If the guy isn't supposed to dismount then he shouldn't have a CVC, so that's a bug I found that I had the "tank" version of the Platoon SGT assigned to that unit instead of the "infantry" version. It will be corrected for the next patch. Steve 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibsonm Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 If the guy isn't supposed to dismount then he shouldn't have a CVC, so that's a bug It will be corrected for the next patch. Steve Nice double negative there. I guess what you meant to say was: "If the guy is supposed to dismount then he shouldn't have a CVC, so that's a bug It will be corrected for the next patch."? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tc237 Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 If the guy isn't supposed to dismount then he shouldn't have a CVC, so that's a bug I found that I had the "tank" version of the Platoon SGT assigned to that unit instead of the "infantry" version. It will be corrected for the next patch. Steve Thanks Steve, No big deal but it is annoying. As you know, every RL Soldier is issued a helmet, regardless of assignment. When they are on the ground they wear a helmet. (or Top will chew their ass ) How did this get by the... That was my understanding as well, the helmet is the correct one. The XO and certain other officers spend most of their time in a vehicle communicating with the rest of their unit, so the CVC helmet is more practical than a combat helmet. ...ah, I see. Wrong. and laughable. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lomir Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 The XO should be totally deaf on the ground with that CVC helmet 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibsonm Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 The XO should be totally deaf on the ground with that CVC helmet Well if they are the same as ours, not quite, as they have adjustable covers over the ears that you can open and close to let external sound in or not. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt Joch Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 This issue had been raised and discussed in the beta forums while working on the USMC module and one Marine stated it was correct for LAR platoon commanders. All squad/platoon leaders wear the CVC helmet while mounted to stay in communication with the rest of the unit and are supposed to switch to the combat helmet when they dismount. Whether, in practice, they keep the CVC helmet on when dismounting is something only actual servicemen can answer. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 If you're a commander on foot and you know there's a possibility of enemy snipers, you probably don't want to wear anything that clearly distinguishes you from your subordinates just as you don't want men to salute you or slap a pink neon sign that says "OFFICER" on your back. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lomir Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 Well if they are the same as ours, not quite, as they have adjustable covers over the ears that you can open and close to let external sound in or not. No We use an Spanish-made copy of the good old U.S. CVC helmet from Carbondale (PA). Yes, the original ones that saw some action in Vietnam with our M113s They are tough ones, but they don't use ballistic kevlar, so we always change to the 'Marte' combat helmet when out of the vehicle. Although the Leopard 2 tankers use the same German helmet model - they don't use to put their feet on the ground, so no combat helmet to worry of. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibsonm Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 No We use an Spanish-made copy of the good old U.S. CVC helmet from Carbondale (PA). Well “we” use ones from Racall (sp?). So I guess it all depends on who “we” are. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battlefront.com Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 I have a current issue Bundeswehr helmet and "deaf" is a great way to describe the experience of wearing one unplugged I wore one to a Halloween costume party and found it very annoying because I could barely hear anything. That and the fact the stupid mic kept getting in the way of my beer stein Steve 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonS Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 Meh. And people say German engineers are so great. They didn't factor that into their design, now did they? Idjits. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dietrich Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 Maybe the particular current-issue Bundeswehr helmet wasn't designed by a German. Maybe it was designed by a Belgian accustomed to sipping ale from a fluted glass rather than quaffing Doppelbock from a Krug. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tc237 Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 ....is something only actual servicemen can answer. With luck one might just stop in to let us know... they don't use to put their feet on the ground, so no combat helmet to worry of. Death before dismount I wore one to a Halloween costume party and found it very annoying because I could barely hear anything. :eek: A party? with real people? The current model helmets have a built in external mic that you click on to hear outside conversations (only works when plugged in, I think) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt Joch Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 With luck one might just stop in to let us know... yes, too bad there's none around... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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