Mord Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 the banner in the repository...it shows all the Brit vehicles. Mord. P.S. if you don't see it at first, just keep refreshing the page until it comes up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gpig Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 cool. Here's the direct link to the page. There are TWO Brit Force banners. One just shows a single vehicle. The juicy one has a line-up of vehicles and it pans from Right to Left. Keep searching/reloading if you can't find it. (Sometimes you need to go to a different page.) http://www.battlefront.com/index.php?option=com_remository&Itemid=314&func=select&id=21 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingknives Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 The CVR(T) family looks a bit... clean. But very nice all the same. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dakuman Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 Nice!...Can't wait to try some Brit vs Marine battles:) How does the Challenger compare with the Abrahms? Is it a better tank? I've seen some videos on youtube that rate the top ten tanks in the world and the Challenger is actually ranked higher. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisND Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 Nice!...Can't wait to try some Brit vs Marine battles:) How does the Challenger compare with the Abrahms? Is it a better tank? I've seen some videos on youtube that rate the top ten tanks in the world and the Challenger is actually ranked higher. IMO the difference is mainly going to be down to the skill of the crews. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSX Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 It is said that the only thing thats ever killed a Challenger is another Challenger, though Im sure its doable. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piecekeeper Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 I would say they are pretty equal. The main difference i would say is the engine...Challenger got a diesel...Abrams gas-turbine. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Other Means Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 Doesn't the Challenger have Chobam II (Dorchester?) armour while the M1 has Chobam I. Of course the M1A2 is networked better and that should make a difference. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 How different are the Chav'er 2 and M1A2 main guns and ammunition? I suppose at the ranges you're likely to have in CMSF the anti-tank capability is pretty much the same, but how about anti-personnel? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piecekeeper Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 I think also Challenger 2 uses HESH against tanks and M1 uses APFSDS rounds. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Other Means Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 I think also Challenger 2 uses HESH against tanks and M1 uses APFSDS rounds. I'm no expert but I think both use the APFSDS. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingknives Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 Challenger 2 has a 120mm, 55 calibre-length, rifled main armament (the L30). Primary ammunition is CHARM 3 APFSDS-DU Secondary natures are HESH and Smoke. HESH is used against light vehicles (up to and including T55), buildings and at extreme range. M1A1 and later Abrams have a 120mm, 44 calibre-length, smoothbore main armament (M256, IIRC) Primary ammunition is M829A2/3 APFSDS-DU Secondary nature is HEAT, although canister rounds are available The L30 will have a bit more energy, but the American KE rounds have more development behind them so they will more or less equal. HESH has more explosive than HEAT, AIUI. Challenger 2 has better suspension, so it's faster across rough ground. The most recent equipment fits have serious amounts of side armour plus a new armour pack over the front arc. Plus there are versions with a remote weapon system As for primary armour, it's going to be about the same, although possibly distributed differently. Without the front pack, the Challenger 2 is a bit weak on the lower front hull. Other than that, Challenger 2 can generate smoke screens via the exhaust, which the Abrams can't. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dakuman Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nO5X_xTR6k0 Cool video...looks like the Abrahms is ranked #3...the Challenger #2 and the Leopard #1 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webwing Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 The CVR(T) family looks a bit... clean. But very nice all the same. The versions of the Scimitar and Spartan shown are the ones without slat armour. I guess that´s what you mean. Also the FV432 and Bulldog don´t have their final skins. - 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piecekeeper Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 Post the blueprints on the chobham too please;) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webwing Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nO5X_xTR6k0 Cool video...looks like the Abrahms is ranked #3...the Challenger #2 and the Leopard #1 Soon we will have all 3 in CM:SF. The Leo2 A4 looks a bit outdated. But the A6 is pretty awesome. - 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piecekeeper Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 Define "best". Ive seen other lists. I think it was the Swedish version of leopard who took the first place on a show on Discovery some year ago. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piecekeeper Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 I wonder how the sound of the gun will differ from M1. Will it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmar Bijlsma Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 It is said that the only thing thats ever killed a Challenger is another Challenger, though Im sure its doable. I seem to remember a Challenger 2 got penetrated in the front hull by a an EFP. Didn't one get hit and penetrated by an RPG-29 from the front as well? I don't think a Challenger 2 will be noticeably different from an Abrams. Not that I will love it any less for that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dakuman Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 Soon we will have all 3 in CM:SF. The Leo2 A4 looks a bit outdated. But the A6 is pretty awesome. - Excellent! Now if we can just talk Battlefront into making an Israeli module maybe we can get the Merkava too 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisND Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 No offense, but the vast majority of Top Ten Lists have about as much legitimacy as an email bank transaction from Nigeria. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panzermartin Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 I still think that is a shame we wont see the IDF in CMSF. Every time I think of mid east wars Israel comes to mind. By far the coolest blue force equipment too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingknives Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 AIUI, one CR2 had an RPG-29 go through the lower front hull, injuring the driver, and another had a large EFP mine go through the underside of the hull, again injuring the driver. One CR2 has been k-killed, after a HESH round from another CR2 hit an open hatch. This set off a stowed round which took the turret off. AIUI, the stowage of reactive rounds in the turret was a bit naughty 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panzermartin Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 Iraqis had RPG-29s? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmar Bijlsma Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 The Iranians have. Thus so do some of the better connected Shi'ite militias. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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