AAR's and Unit Gallery added to the Theatre of War website

[Gewehr_43]

Wow. Those models look fantastic. Can't wait to get my hands on this baby.

I'm a bit disappointed that my babies never get any love. I never saw them in CMBO or CMBB either. Any chance they'll be out in a later patch?

[BarbarossaDSS]

Nice looking piece. I got parts of a Kar 98K myself from Luffwaffe unit.

Certainly the tanks look terrific. I like having the ability to play with early war tanks, such as the polish 7TP and french Hotchkis and such.

[Yahoshua]

Will there be the Para version with folding wire stock?

Will the medics have "Fag Bags" with the red cross on it? (Will we be able to see that much detail?)

[Lanzfeld]

Originally posted by Yahoshua:

Will the medics have "Fag Bags"

Dude...Don't be hating!

LOL!

[Other Means]

Firefly? Achilles? All the stuff that's really good for wiping the smile off a Tigers face and the Archer makes it in

[MeatEtr]

Originally posted by Gewehr_43:

Wow. Those models look fantastic. Can't wait to get my hands on this baby.

I'm a bit disappointed that my babies never get any love. I never saw them in CMBO or CMBB either. Any chance they'll be out in a later patch?

What a show-off, his very first post on the forums and he posts a pic of his guns. :mad:

Seriously though, nice rifles and site. Your G41/43 rifles get a lotta lovin in RO. Maybe you could tell us how accurately modelled the iron sights are of the G41 rifle in RO. Since you obviously have fired it. Check it out here!

The rifle is gonna be added to the games long weapons list shortly with an update.

[Gewehr_43]

What can I say, MeatEtr? I'm a gamer that collects German rifles. Or is it a German rifle collector who also plays video games.

Either way, the 3d models for the G41 in RO suck, suck, suck.

[M Hofbauer]

well, well...what can I say...

14 pages of tanks (plus the Jagpanzer-turned-Kampfpanzer in the SPG/TD section), only two pages of small arms and I'm not gonna get into all the mistakes except they can't even get the Anhängerdreieck on the Blitz right.

have *fun* everybody

sincerely,

M.H.

[whaco]

I had a read through of all 4 AAR's and was enjoying them until I made it to the last AAR involving the Russians and Germans. It was enough to make me nauseous. Why bother showing an AAR like that involving numerous tanks at a stones throw away from each other in a C&C type environment. Great graphics for the young un's out there to get exited about, but I'm sure an infantry type battle for the grog CM crowd would have been nice with 1 or 2 tanks thrown in for good measure. Just my 2 cents.

[ September 20, 2006, 10:45 PM: Message edited by: whaco ]

[saddletank]

It seems that every WW2 wargame or RTS produced for the PC seems to fixated on tanks. World War II was about infantry combat with artillery support. OK, so tanks were used at some points of assault but most of the war was fought by the PBI. I do hate to see every WW2 PC game based around tank combat. All the AARs given so far have included tanks and a far too high a proportion of them in respect to the infantry sized element involved.

Another thing, apart from the British and American armies every army in WW2 relied principally on the horse for transport. Why can't some WW2 game developer bite the bullet and give us horse drawn artillery and supply vehicles? Far more realistic.

My third point is I don't see much France 1940 British equipment represented. 2pdr AT gun, Matilda Mk.I, A9, A10, A13, Vickers Light Mk.VI - all wonderful vehicles. I hope there is a 1940s British camapign included.

[jaybond]

I was expecting(I believe we all do)to see these units included as well:),

1)Sherman Firefly

2)Hellcat Tank Destroyer

3)Panther variants

4)Marder 1,2,3

5)Sturmpanzer Brummbar (perhaps Sturmtiger as well)

6)T-35 medium tank

7)Puma Armoured car

8)BA-10 Armoured car

9)Flak 88

10)LeFH 105mm

11)Mortars for all

12)Light arms - Panzerfaust 100 & 60, PIAT, GranatBuchse 41, Magnetic AT Grenades, Dshk MG

[ September 21, 2006, 09:05 PM: Message edited by: jaybond ]

[Madmatt]

Let me try as best I can to answser some of the comments and concerns here.

Remember, ToW is not meant to be a sandbox *build your own battle* type simulation like Combat Mission. Rather, it features specific battles and situaitons and as such the unit mix is not as comprehensive as in CM.

Now then, as to specific vehicles and units not pictured.

Piat,yes its in, but the source material 1C sent me didn't have a picture of it, so its not shown in the gallery.

In the game data there are many more types of small arms (different Panzerfaust types for instance) but again, I didn't get pics of them. There are also all sorts of grenades, and AT devices not listed, but that are in fact in the game.

Mortars, we are still working on.

The Boys ATR is in the game data itself, but we have told the designers that it should not be used by the US, just like the M3 tank.

As to specific vehicles asked about, maybe a text list of units/guns would be nice? Here is what I pulled from some of the game data files. This list is by no means complete, so should be considered "non-final" or beta. This list also may have non-standard designations or names listed, that is because it came from a build of ToW prior to Battlefront's direct involvement.

Panhard 178 (AMD 35)

AMC P16 Mle.1929

Pzspw P204f

SdKfz 222

SdKfz 232 8-rad

SdKfz 250/1 alt

SdKfz 251/1 Ausf.C

SdKfz 251/1 Ausf.D

Wz.34

BA-64

NKL-26

Daimler Mk.I

M3A1

T17E1 Staghound

M8

Canon de Campagne Mle.1897

PaK 35/36 L/45

PaK 38 L/60

PaK 40 L/46

PaK 43/41 L/71

Bofors Wz.36

Field Gun Wz.1897

45mm mod.1938

ZiS-2

ZiS-3

6 Pounder Mk.IV

25 Pounder Howitzer Mk.II

Howitzer M2A1

M1

UNIC P107

BMW R75

Horch Type 830

Kubelwagen Typ 82

Opel Blitz (4 varients)

Sd.Kfz.7

FIAT PF 508

FIAT PF 621

GAZ-67

GAZ-AAA

GAZ-M1

NKL-16

Voroshilovetz

ZiS-5

ZiS-5

CPM Ford FAT-2

Universal Carrier Mk.I

Dodge WC-51

GMC-CCKW-353

Studebaker US6

Willys MB

Blenheim Mk.IV

Buffalo Mk.I

Hawk 75A

MS-406

Bf-109F

Bf-110C

Fi-156

Fw-190A

Hs-129B

P-11c Bomber

P-11c Fighter

P-11c Recon

Il-2 1941 Late

La-7

Pe-2 series 359

U-2VS

Yak-1B

Blenheim Mk.I

Gladiator Mk.II

Hurricane Mk.IIc

Spitfire Mk.Vb

P-38L

P-47D

P-51B

Brummbar

Elephant

Ferdinand

Hummel

PzKpfw V Jagdpanther

PzKpfw 38(t) Hetzer

PzKpfw IV Jagdpanzer

PzKpfw IV 70 Jagdpanzer

Jagdtiger

Nashorn

StuG III Ausf.G

StuG III Ausf.C/D

StuG IV

Wespe

ISU-152

SU-100

SU-122

SU-76M

SU-85

Archer

M10 Gun Motor Carriage

M36 Jackson

Bataille Char B1 bis

Hotchkiss H35

Renault AMR 35zt

Renault FT-17

Renault R35

Somua S35

KlPzBfWg I

Pz 35(t)

Pz 38(t)

Pz I Ausf.B

Pz II Ausf.C

Pz II Ausf.F

Pz III Ausf.F

Pz III Ausf.J

Pz III Ausf.M

Pz IV Ausf.C

Pz IV Ausf.F2

Pz IV Ausf.H

Pz V Panther

Pz VI Tiger II Ausf.B

Pz VI Tiger Ausf.E

7TP

TKS

TKS MG

Vickers E dw

Vickers E jw

BT-7 mod.1936

BT-7A

IS-2

KV-1

KV-2

T-26

T-27

T-34-85

T-34 mod.1941

T-34 mod.1943

T-40S

T-60

T-70M

A12 Matilda II

Valentine II, Infantry Tank Mk. III

A22F Churchill VII

A27M Cromwell IV

A30 Challenger I

A34 Comet I

M24 Chaffee

M3

M4 Sherman

M4A1 Sherman

M4A2 Sherman

M4A2 76W Sherman

M4A3 76W Sherman

M5A1 Stuart

13.2mm Hotchkiss

25mm Hotchkiss SA 34

37mm SA18

47mm SA35 L34

7.5mm Mle.1931

75mm Mle.1897

75mm SA35 L17

8mm Hotchkiss

MAC-1924

MAS-1907 15 M16

MAS-36

MAS-36 sniper

Mle.1935S

105mm leFH18M L/28

128mm PaK 44 L/55

150mm sFH18 1 L/30

150mm StuH 43 1 L/12

20mm Flak 38

20mm KwK 30 L/55

37mm Flak 36

37mm KwK 34t

37mm KwK 36 L/45

37mm KwK 38t

37mm PaK 35 36

50mm KwK 38 L/42

50mm KwK 39 L/60

50mm PaK 38

7.92mm MG-34

7.92mm MG-35t

7.92mm MG-37

7.92mm MG-42

75mm KwK 37 L/24

75mm KwK 40 L/43

75mm KwK 40 L/48

75mm KwK 42 L/70

75mm PaK 39 L/48

75mm PaK 40

75mm PaK 42 L/70

75mm StuK 37 L/24

75mm StuK 40 L/48

88mm KwK 36 L/56

88mm KwK 43 L/71

88mm PaK 43 1 L/71

88mm PaK 43 2 L/71

88mm PaK 43 3 L/71

88mm PaK 43 41

Faustpatrone

9mm Luger P-08

7.92mm Mauser K98k

7.92mm Mauser K98k sniper

7.92mm MG-34

7.92mm MG-42

9mm MP-40

Panzerfaust-100

Panzerfaust-30

Panzerfaust-60

Panzerschreck

7.92mm PzB-39

7.92mm StG-44

9mm Walter P-38

20mm FK wz38

37mm Bofors wz36

47mm Vickers QF

7.92mm Hotchkiss wz25

7.92mm wz30

75mm Field Gun wz97

7.92mm Kb ppanc wz35

7.92mm Kb wz98

7.92mm Kb wz98 PZO

7.92mm Rkm wz28 Browning

9mm Vis wz35

100mm D-10S

12.7mm DShK

121.9mm M-30

122mm D-25T

14.5mm AT Rifle

152.4mm M-10

152mm ML-20S

20mm ShVAK

20mm TNSh

37mm 61-K

45mm 20K

45mm AT

57mm ZIS-2

7.62mm DT

7.62mm Maxim

76.2mm F-32

76.2mm F-34

76.2mm KT-26

76.2mm ZIS-3

76.2mm ZIS-3Sh

85mm D-5S

85mm ZIS-S-53

7.62mm DP-27

7.62mm Mosin

7.62mm Mosin sniper

7.62mm PPD

7.62mm PPSh

7.62mm SVT-40

7.62mm SVT-40 sniper

7.62mm TT

20mm Oerlikon

40mm OQF Mk.IX

57mm 6 pdr Mk.IV

.303 Bren

.303 Vickers Mk.I

.33 BESA

75mm Mk.V

76.2mm 17 pdr Mk.II

77mm Mk.V

77mm OQF Mk.II

87mm 25 pdr Mk.II

.303 Bren Mk.I

.303 Enfield No.2 Mk.I

.303 Enfield No.4 Mk.I

.303 Enfield No.4 Mk.I T

PIAT

.38 Sten Mk.II

105mm M2A1 Howitzer

.50 M2 Browning

.50 M2HB Browning

37mm M6

57mm M1 AT gun

.30 M1919A4 Browning

75mm M3

75mm M6

76mm M1A1

76mm M7

90mm M3

Bazooka

.30 M1918A2 Browning

.30 M1919A6 Browning

.45 M1911A1 Colt

.30 M1 Garand

.55 M37 Boys

.45 M3A1 Grease Gun

.30 M1903A4 Springfield

.30 M1903A4 Springfield sniper

.45 M1A1 Tompson

Madmatt

[ September 22, 2006, 05:47 PM: Message edited by: Madmatt ]

[Madmatt]

p.s. I also fixed the typos on the USSR and United Kingdom pages.

Madmatt

[gunnersman]

You go girl! :eek:

[gunnersman]

Originally posted by Madmatt:

Mortars, we are still working on.

Sooo, there are going to be on-map mortars in game?

Originally posted by Madmatt:

...Panzerfaust-100

Panzerfaust-30

Panzerfaust-60

Panzerschreck

7.92mm PzB-39

9mm StG-44

9mm Walter P-38...

Madmatt

Me thinks that is a typo from typing too fast. Shouldnt that be 7.92mm StG44?

[z-warfare]

Unless it's the 'M1' between 'Howitzer M2A1' and 'UNIC P107', I didn't see the M1 Carbine there... where's the M1 Carbine? M1 CARBINE!!!!

[z-warfare]

Waaaah!!

[jaybond]

Originally posted by z-warfare:

Unless it's the 'M1' between 'Howitzer M2A1' and 'UNIC P107', I didn't see the M1 Carbine there... where's the M1 Carbine? M1 CARBINE!!!!

Yea, I can understand your disappointment. Ideally, all the units in the CM series should be featured in this game. That will make it the best WWII RTS:).

[Romain]

Hello guys, i am franch and i follow this game for a long. If you want i have find this picture

http://www.theatreofwar.de/index.php?

menu=dev_pics

They are older but good

ps: we see the mortar

[Bil Hardenberger]

I notice in your tank gallery that you have the M4A2 (75 and 76) under USA.. wasn't the M4A2 a lend lease only variant? Should be under Russia.

[Vergeltungswaffe]

Originally posted by Bil Hardenberger:

I notice in your tank gallery that you have the M4A2 (75 and 76) under USA.. wasn't the M4A2 a lend lease only variant? Should be under Russia.

M4A2 was used in the Pacific. Expansion time!

[Kartboy6]

Yes it was use by the USMC.

Cheers

[RabidRabbit]

Originally posted by Madmatt:

Remember, ToW is not meant to be a sandbox *build your own battle* type simulation like Combat Mission.

****.

[Lanzfeld]

But he did say we could edit the forces. That is kinda the same thing.

[Pachy]

Originally posted by Madmatt:

Canon de Campagne Mle.1897

Field Gun Wz.1897

75mm Mle.1897

How many times does the venerable "soixante-quinze" need to be listed?

Hawk 75A

MS-406

No French light bomber, such as a Breguet 693?

MAC-1924

The designation is "FM 24/29" (or "fusil-mitrailleur mle 1924 m. 1929")

MAS-1907 15 M16

It wasn't a MAS design, AFAIK.

MAS-36 sniper

I don't think such combination ever existed. The postwar FSA MAS 49 was sometimes fitted with a scope, but for the 1940 time frame, the Lebel seems to be the only choice:

http://armesfrancaises.free.fr/FR%20Mle%201886%20M93%20sniper.html

No French AA gun either? Unless the Oerlikon is listed as such.