mav1 Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 Individual units in combat mission never surrender apart from the last crew member of a machinegun. Even when they are surrounded and totaly outnumbered they fight to the death. Are all troops in combat mission fanatical? I bet individual conscript Syrian unit's would surrender if given the chance, after getting battered by shells and heavy fire. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Radley Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 Huh? I've seen entire squads surrender when faced by overwhelming odds. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mav1 Posted July 12, 2006 Author Share Posted July 12, 2006 Originally posted by Boo Radley: Huh? I've seen entire squads surrender when faced by overwhelming odds. Never seen it happen to me. The only time I have seen entire squads surrender is at the end of the battle when morale has collapsed for the entire enemy force that's left. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdstrike Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 Happens all the time, especially with low-quality troops. Routed units usually surrender when enemies are close by. Or try overrunning an enemy gun with an AFV. Or assaulting a pinned squad with infantry. Should do the trick. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoat Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 If you can set up a strong base of fire, and then advance on the enemy positions with a number of tanks, preferrably from different sides/angles, you can get entire platoons to surrender. You can get smaller numbers in other ways, but generally you can get a nice bag of prisoners if you use shock tactics and armored vehicles. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zmoney Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 I just had about the whole French platoon surrender to one of my Tigers in the scenario Tiger valley. Maybe you are just playing scenarios with fanatical troops? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew H. Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 Surrender happens a lot, although most commonly, I think, when a unit is surrounded - or at least someone is behind it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 I'd bet mav1 plays CMBB. On the Eastern Front the soldiers are much more willing to lay down their lives for their country because they know the alternative may actually be worse! In CMAK surrenders are much more common. In CMBO in winter (Bulge) scenarios I recall watching in horror as SS soldiers executed their Allied prisoners! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gpig Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 Was that the Rumble II battle? I remember the commander of a KingTiger ordering it's gunner to blast the crew of the AT gun. (This crew had taken out another KingTiger, moments before. Then surrendered after thier ATgun was whacked.) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C'Rogers Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 Was surrender common in the heat of battle or was it more an out of battle issue (we are outnumbered let's surrender before the shooting starts or after being routed and captured)? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mav1 Posted July 19, 2006 Author Share Posted July 19, 2006 Individual units never surrender when I play the game. They prefer to rout were they get slaughtered, even green troops, rather than taking the sencible option to surrender. By the way MickeyD, I do like to play CMBB the most. But I like to think that the Germans and Russians are more civilised in the game than in the real war. Just like the British. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Jack Ripper Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 Best way I found to get prisoners is to give a routed enemy nowhere to go. I made a battle on CMBO where American force attacks fortified German position on top of a hill. Several times I snuck around back of gun bunkers, after taking many grenades and explosives, my guys would say 'come out with your hands in the air' and the whole German gun crew would surrender. Knocked out four bunkers this way. The rest would try to run through my men to get away, with predictable results. Anyway, I've never had a problem taking prisoners when I wanted to. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dixon_el Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 The whole French company should surrender if confronted by more than two squads of Germans. Otherwise, CMAK should be considered "gamey", because it wouldn't be following "historical" norms. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigduke6 Posted July 22, 2006 Share Posted July 22, 2006 Originally posted by MikeyD: I'd bet mav1 plays CMBB. On the Eastern Front the soldiers are much more willing to lay down their lives for their country because they know the alternative may actually be worse! In CMAK surrenders are much more common. In CMBO in winter (Bulge) scenarios I recall watching in horror as SS soldiers executed their Allied prisoners! I play Soviets against S.S. Who wants to take prisoners? :confused: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mav1 Posted July 26, 2006 Author Share Posted July 26, 2006 Originally posted by MikeyD: I'd bet mav1 plays CMBB. On the Eastern Front the soldiers are much more willing to lay down their lives for their country because they know the alternative may actually be worse! In CMAK surrenders are much more common. In CMBO in winter (Bulge) scenarios I recall watching in horror as SS soldiers executed their Allied prisoners! Yes you are right MickeyD, troops do surrender more easily in cmak than cmbb. But should that be the case for the Soviets at the beginning of the war. At this time the Soviets did not know of the brutality of the Germans and were ready to surrender when in trouble. What about surrendering in Shock Force. Would the americans dare to surrender to religous fanatics? Would the fanatics take prisioners for propaganda purposes? So that they behead their prisioners later for internet and tv coverage. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homo ferricus Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 Originally posted by mav1: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by MikeyD: I'd bet mav1 plays CMBB. On the Eastern Front the soldiers are much more willing to lay down their lives for their country because they know the alternative may actually be worse! In CMAK surrenders are much more common. In CMBO in winter (Bulge) scenarios I recall watching in horror as SS soldiers executed their Allied prisoners! Yes you are right MickeyD, troops do surrender more easily in cmak than cmbb. But should that be the case for the Soviets at the beginning of the war. At this time the Soviets did not know of the brutality of the Germans and were ready to surrender when in trouble. What about surrendering in Shock Force. Would the americans dare to surrender to religous fanatics? Would the fanatics take prisioners for propaganda purposes? So that they behead their prisioners later for internet and tv coverage. </font> 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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