mav1

You lucky s###. Well how good is it, is it better than cmx1?

Bros? No, I made it up myself, without any influence. Anyway I prefer boyzone their so cool. :eek: Looking at games website it could be 3 days before its avaible in a uk retail shop, unless someone knows better. Iam confused with everyones reviews is shock force better than than cmx1? Is the failings on the game based on bugs or the game itself?

While waiting for shock force to be available in retail shops in the UK, I have come up with a little song. When will I, will I be able to play shock force. I can't answear that, I can't answear that. When will I, will I be able to play shock force. I can't answear that, I can't answear that.

Anyone in the Uk know when shock force will be in retail shops in the uk? Iam still waiting to play the game.

Iam surprised that the is-2 armour in the game is thinner than what a lot of other books and websites state. I wonder where BFC got the info for the IS-2 from? In comparison the armour of all the other vehicles match what is stated in other books and websites. [ July 16, 2007, 05:13 AM: Message edited by: mav1 ]

Oh well, having dense urban area and more units is more important than continous map edges. It will be something to look forward to in the future, also with bigger map ares in cmx3. Is their diffent backgrounds to choose from? Like flat terrain or hilly terrain. [ July 13, 2007, 05:02 AM: Message edited by: mav1 ]

John you were at the forum long before me. So what's with the weak armour of the is-2 tank. I was just looking at an osprey book and it stated that Tiger tank could only knock out the is-2 at the side from the maximum of 1500m! In cmbb the panzer IV can knock out the is 2 at that range fromn the front! Its not only the osprey book that state this other books and website state virtualy the same. The is 2 is badly weakened in the game due to its weakened armour because if its natural low firing rate. There is also this long debate I have been reading from the past posts about the low penetration of the 76mm soviet tank gun. Has a conclusion ever been reached on it?

I suggest you play that then - it would surely be a bettr use of your time than whining on and on about a game you've not played yet. [/QB]</font>

I can't wait. Please let me know the answears. I won't be able to sleep at night. :eek:

Was the 122mm howitzer not used as a field gun like the 76mm zis field gun?

There is a few soviet guns missing. Where is the 122mm field howitzer for instance?

Wow look at how the map carries of far in the distance past the map edge of the battle. oh, Iam dreaming again. I remmember a game called team yankee on the atari st not having map edges. That game is about 17 years old! Team yankee and its sequals were fun games. [ July 11, 2007, 08:25 AM: Message edited by: mav1 ]

Thats an excellant flexible system. A pat on the back for the one who came up with the idea.

Just thinking, if you lose the first scenario will you still move to the next scenario, even though the next scenario moves you forward even though you failed to move forward in your first scenrio. Or if you fail the scenario, do you have to play over the same map again?

Its nothing to do with small maps being unrealistic or unplayable. Its to do with big maps not being realistic or unplayable.

Is the maximum stories of a building in the game 6 0r 8? Is it possible to create factory buildings? If so can you make one that is 4x4km2 big? Are their lifts as well as stairs inthe game? Can you have damaged buildings at rhe start of the game? So many qustions, so little time. [ July 11, 2007, 08:08 AM: Message edited by: mav1 ]

YankeeDog is totaly right, with the map size area needed. Its the game mechanics that is stopping the map area being the reasonable size needed. Shock force is more suited to urban combat than to open desert tank combat.

Right my mind has drifted back to reality. Is is possible to change units on a map in a campaign to reflect whats going on another map in another campaign. Say that in one map of one campaign my forces get trashed. Can I then lessen my forces in another map in another campaign to back up my routed forces in the other map in the other campaign. Iam trying to see if campaigns can be fluid in their ceation to reacted on whats going on in another campaign. I know the calculations will have to be done by me with a pencil on paper. Its to fit in the idea of lots of campaigns of many maps to simulate all of syria. Their is no limit to the number ofscenarios in a campaign is their? Otherwise my fantasy game will not work.

Yes. Yes. Your complicated part, yes, theoretically you could do this. But keep in mind the terrain tiles in the editor are 5 square meters (I think, though everything is modeled in 3D at 1 meter). So to model an 800 km line, only 400 meters wide, you would need to place and verify 12,800,000 tiles in the editor. If of course you are shooting for a true 1:1 representation of Syria and provided I got my math right. </font>

How are map edges done in shock forc? I was dreaming of map edges like in oblivion where the map carries off into the distance. Or is it like in cmx1, looking like something created by the bbc or spectrum?

So you can move the core units from one map to a completly different map. Iam I right? Then you can add reinforcements to the core units on the new map? What was the decision making in not having any building or terrain carried on from end of the scenario? To make it belivable you are going to have to move to a completly new map. Right this when things might get complicated. I will try my best to be understood. Say you wanted to simulate combat on the whole map of syria. Is it possible to create a campaign of scenarios going from south to north that covers a stretch of land that is 4km (scenario map width, west to east) by 800km ( 200 scenario map's, width 4km, north to south). You are then going to have to create 150 campaign of similiar size to cover the whole area of Syria going from west to east. Yes I know thats 30,000 scenario, but is it possible? It would be better if the total width limit of the scenario map in the game , be 8km instead of 4km it would mean a whole lot less of scenarios.

Is it the number of units that take up most of the calculations? So if you have very few units, can you get away with a large map, without straining the pc to breaking point?

I need clarity. Is the campaign going to be a set of battles based on a map size limit of 16km2 followed by another map size limit of 16km2. Can several battles be played surrounding the origional battle? Or is it one battle on from the last battle?

I watched the programe. Nice to see battle history on the tv.

Phew! Iam glad its 4x4km, I was getting worried. Any chance of stretching the size of the maps in future modules, since computers will get more powerful as the months go by. I don't know how long shock force will be supported for with the extra modules. But say a module is made in a years time, can the size of the map be increased. I JUST LOVE THE BIG MAPS! The same goes for rivers. Can the rivers from the future ww2 game be added in a module for the shock force game?