Binkie Posted March 19, 2002 Share Posted March 19, 2002 I think positive news on this would make me literally jump for joy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binkie Posted March 20, 2002 Author Share Posted March 20, 2002 Purty please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon Posted March 20, 2002 Share Posted March 20, 2002 I thought you wanted positive news? No, not in yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Balaban Posted March 20, 2002 Share Posted March 20, 2002 Originally posted by Moon: I thought you wanted positive news? No, not in yet.Might it be then in CM2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ales Dvorak Posted March 20, 2002 Share Posted March 20, 2002 Wuuf. --------- Bark, bark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shep Posted March 20, 2002 Share Posted March 20, 2002 Man, I thought this one was a shoe-in. I really hope it makes it, as a movie playback feature would have great potential for enhancing the enjoyment of the game. I would urge you all at BTS to reconsider if it has been stricken from the list for CMBB, or if it's still possible, to bump it up the priority list a notch or two. I wouldn't choose this over many other features that add to the authenticity of CMBB, but it is to me a very significant gameplay feature. Anyone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobVarak Posted March 20, 2002 Share Posted March 20, 2002 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
109 Gustav Posted March 20, 2002 Share Posted March 20, 2002 BTS, think of all the wasted bandwith that will be caused from 15,000 newbies asking whether movie playback will be included in the next update. In order to ensure that there will be plenty of bandwith when we send you cash in return for CMBB, movie playback should be included from the start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binkie Posted March 20, 2002 Author Share Posted March 20, 2002 Yes, please smooth our collective ruffled fur and tell us that it is still on the "Important" list for CMBB! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Havermeyer- Posted March 20, 2002 Share Posted March 20, 2002 I was just reflecting on how joyous it would be to rewatch a game, in sequence and continuous, in which I offed 14 of my opponents tanks in 3 turns (at a loss of a puma and a KT). Yes it was a purely gamey game where only 5000 points worth of crack/elite pieces of armor were used. But it was fun and sure was purty. Gotta get it in. Gotta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shep Posted March 21, 2002 Share Posted March 21, 2002 ***BUMP*** This one deserves more air time. Any answers, BTS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon Posted March 21, 2002 Share Posted March 21, 2002 Shep, as far as I know it's still on the list. But so are about a bazillion other things, out of which only a million or so went into CMBB already. Full playbacks certainly have a high coolness factor, but as much as we'd like to see this go in, there are coding issues here which mean that it's no small effort to make it work. So some other things are of higher priority (things that are not only cool but really necessary to enhance the game), and after these are completed, full movie playbacks will be evaluated based on effect vs. effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xerxes Posted March 21, 2002 Share Posted March 21, 2002 I ran some new feature polls over at the Band of Brothers. We're certainly pretty hard core CMers, just thought you might be interested in the 3 top rated features of CMBB. 50% vehicle command and control 45% movie playback 38% covered afv firing arcs Movie playback was the second most requested. Having played games (such as myth) with movie playback I can tell you it is not just chrome. It's an absolutely critical feature that helps veterans, but even more so, newbies. This is one of the most anticipated features of CMBB. Heck even if you had to hack a separate playback application that would be better than nothing! - marc s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shep Posted March 21, 2002 Share Posted March 21, 2002 Thanks, Moon, I do appreciate the reply and fuller explanation. If this feature would delay CMBB an inordinate amount of time, I might suggest that it become a patch ala the TCP/IP patch for CMBO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSpkr Posted March 21, 2002 Share Posted March 21, 2002 I gotta agree with xerxes on this one. Full movie playback is not just a snazzy device for entertainment value. It is a useful training tool. The ability to see not only your own troops but also your opponent's manuevers would be quite instructive -- it would allow a detailed analysis of what you did right and what you did wrong. As 'late' as CMBB might seem to be right now, I think this is a critical feature that absolutely must be in CMBB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Havermeyer- Posted May 14, 2002 Share Posted May 14, 2002 Bumpity Bump! Choose one of the following. Is it: a) Still on the list. Off the list and in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scipio Posted May 14, 2002 Share Posted May 14, 2002 Ehm...500 - 3000 kb per turn for a medium to larger sized battle, mainly depending on the number vehicel moves, 30 turns or more... that's 15 - 90 MB or more for a whole battle. Someone should call IBM, we need Terabyte-sized HDs soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Saunders Posted May 14, 2002 Share Posted May 14, 2002 Hey Moon! Full movie playback would be a welcome enhancement. As a programmer I understand how enhancements need to be merged into an existing framework. Also the sheer disk space or memory that such playback data could take up may be problematic, amongst other issues. However, I do not see this as just a GEE WHIZ factor at all. It would enhance enjoyment, increase learning, and add to sales! Add to sales Say I? Correct. Just imagine a CMer showing the game to a friend. Posibility A) "see all the cool units....here's how you give orders....then they go at it for a minute." Possibilty "Check out this recent game I had against a another guy"....**views a full length movie**....reaction: said friend is likely to be blown away and rushes out and buy CM:BB! So there's your business case for whatever trouble it may be worth. I am sure that referal sales makes up a part of your market. At any rate, please don't consider this the old traditional whining "I WAAANT IT" but a real live request to consider this feature. Thanks, -Sarge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pak40 Posted May 14, 2002 Share Posted May 14, 2002 Originally posted by Moon: Shep, as far as I know it's still on the list. But so are about a bazillion other things, out of which only a million or so went into CMBB already. Full playbacks certainly have a high coolness factor, but as much as we'd like to see this go in, there are coding issues here which mean that it's no small effort to make it work. So some other things are of higher priority (things that are not only cool but really necessary to enhance the game), and after these are completed, full movie playbacks will be evaluated based on effect vs. effort.Based on what Moon is saying, it sounds like the game wont even go gold until mid to late Fall. It wont ship until 2-4 weeks after that. Man, this sucks :mad: Maybe I'm jumping the gun with my assumptions, it's not even officially summer yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auggy Posted May 14, 2002 Share Posted May 14, 2002 I don't think it would be possible. It would just take up too much disk space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Saunders Posted May 14, 2002 Share Posted May 14, 2002 Originally posted by Sir Augustus: I don't think it would be possible. It would just take up too much disk space.Wait a minute here. Everyone assumes that full movie playback data must be stored in the same ASCII format as PBEM files. This need not be the case for local hard drive use only. Relevant binary data compressed with any choice of industry standard compression algorhithms could take the same ASCII data from an 800 KB one-minute movie and make is thousands of times smaller! So technically I am not sure disk space is a show-stopper here. I am sure that internal game code is the big thing here. Something has gotta change to support it or they would be doing it already. [ May 14, 2002, 05:02 PM: Message edited by: Sarge Saunders ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meyerpflug Posted May 14, 2002 Share Posted May 14, 2002 Originally posted by xerxes: This is one of the most anticipated features of CMBB. Heck even if you had to hack a separate playback application that would be better than nothing! - marc sI agree with Xerxes. If it's too much trouble to be in the game, make it a seperate application that's a free download. But by all means, don't forego this feature! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Commissar Posted May 14, 2002 Share Posted May 14, 2002 I would love to see this feature. I loved the Myth series of games largely because of this wonderful tool. CMBB would be like, totally radical with full movie playback! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TankDawg Posted May 14, 2002 Share Posted May 14, 2002 If nothing else, full playback would be one hell of a marketing tool! Would definately attract more players. I have often wished I could send a movie to a friend or two to entice them to play. They would in a heartbeat if they saw how amazing the game is when it gets hot. Could release them to all the Gaming web sites for publicity. Not too mention, boy, could you put out lots of tutorials. would be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Wacky Posted May 14, 2002 Share Posted May 14, 2002 I wouldn't want to sit for 30 to 60 minutes and watch the battle I just fought. I already know what happened. It would be cool though to watch files between top players though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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