Shadow 1st Hussars Posted December 19, 2003 Share Posted December 19, 2003 Some mac users experiance downsampling. For those of you with a radeon card I have a solution! Beside the finder pulldown menu you should have and ATi menu, if not you will have to activate it by holding option-c during your next restart. Once you have this meny activating you will see the Graphics Acceleration bar checked off. Just scroll down, select it and it will uncheck. Start CMAK and voila! No more downsampling. It's as simple as that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted December 19, 2003 Share Posted December 19, 2003 Gasp! Stop mac downsampling? If your fix works (I'm typing this at work and can't test it just yet) you, sir, are a God among men!!!!!!!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffsmith Posted December 19, 2003 Share Posted December 19, 2003 I wiil definitely try it but it seems counter -intuitive improving graphics by turning OFF acceleration??? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow 1st Hussars Posted December 19, 2003 Author Share Posted December 19, 2003 I think the graphics acceleration may lower the graphics to improve the performance. Since turning it off other games that I play have had an improved visual quality. I sure hope it works for everyone else, it certainly worked for me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewTF Posted December 19, 2003 Share Posted December 19, 2003 Oh boy oh boy oh boy oh boy oh boy!! I gotta try this when I get home. Course I don't actually have CMAK yet, but perhaps there's a surprise for me in the mailbox today. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted December 19, 2003 Share Posted December 19, 2003 No CMAK yet for you? poor feller! You may be interested to know that it appears that CMAK - as hi-res as its beautiful art is - actually seems to have LESS of a downsampling problem than CMBB. Stll, if Shadow 1st's fix works that'll be a great Xmas present for all us mac guys. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted December 19, 2003 Share Posted December 19, 2003 Anybody know if there is something like this for nVidia cards? Personally, I think the Radeon crowd is getting far too much good news lately. I think their cards ought to melt down soon... :mad: Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitty Posted December 19, 2003 Share Posted December 19, 2003 Originally posted by Michael Emrys: Anybody know if there is something like this for nVidia cards? Personally, I think the Radeon crowd is getting far too much good news lately. I think their cards ought to melt down soon... :mad: Michael Something like what? I have an nVidia and I know everything. :mad: Kitty 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted December 20, 2003 Share Posted December 20, 2003 Originally posted by Kitty: Something like what? I have an nVidia...Something like a pulldown menu if you do the Option-c thing on restart (I am going to try this in a few minutes after I get through here) that will put an end to downsampling. Are you on a Mac? Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffsmith Posted December 20, 2003 Share Posted December 20, 2003 at the risk of being pilloried... I just tried the fix and didnt notice any positive difference I know a restart is not needed because turning off the feature in the menu immediately has a negative effect on how graphics are displayed in the OS please post if anyone has better results !!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow 1st Hussars Posted December 20, 2003 Author Share Posted December 20, 2003 I have better results. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wicky Posted December 20, 2003 Share Posted December 20, 2003 I've an Aftermarket AGP Retail Radeon 32mb and never really noticed any downsampling, just had problems with modded hi-res skies that go very screwy. What gets downsampled so I can take a closer peak? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewTF Posted December 20, 2003 Share Posted December 20, 2003 So... today is a good, no, great day. I find CMAK waiting for me when I get home, AND this trick seems to work!!! How cool is that? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffsmith Posted December 20, 2003 Share Posted December 20, 2003 Could someone please post a screenshot comparison just so I know what to look for and I want to Thank Shadow 1st Hussars Sorry I ever doubted you 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ales Dvorak Posted December 20, 2003 Share Posted December 20, 2003 Originally posted by Michael Emrys: Anybody know if there is something like this for nVidia cards?Maybe It's time for Radeon. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow 1st Hussars Posted December 20, 2003 Author Share Posted December 20, 2003 Originally posted by AndrewTF: So... today is a good, no, great day. I find CMAK waiting for me when I get home, AND this trick seems to work!!! How cool is that? Great to hear that it doesn't only work for me! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewTF Posted December 20, 2003 Share Posted December 20, 2003 I'll qualify my statements by admitting that on large maps with lots of trees and buildings and stuff some downsampling occurs, but it doesn't seem to be as extreme as with the graphics acceleration turned on. I used to see the effects of downsampling on all but the tiniest itty-bittyest maps. Not any more. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawg Bonz Posted December 21, 2003 Share Posted December 21, 2003 Shadow 1st Hussars Thank you for the advice. I turned off ATI Graphics Acceleration and can see no differences. Saved a few close up screen shots (in CMAK only so far), Esc out of the game to compare them. I honsetly can not see any change with ATI Graphics Acceleration on or off. Could you please describe your Mac system and the model Radeon video card you are using? Could you please describe what is downsampled on your Mac? I am not questioning your suggestion. I am wondering how what Radeon products this anti downsampling tip applies to. If others could point me in the correct direction (description of down sampled artifacts on the Mac) I would appreciate this. My Mac: Power PC 8500 (Sonnet 400MHz accelerator) 576MB ram ATI Radeon Mac Edition 32MB PCI video card. Thanks, 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitty Posted December 21, 2003 Share Posted December 21, 2003 Easy question. Get a PC. =) G,D,& Rs, Kitty 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted December 21, 2003 Share Posted December 21, 2003 Originally posted by Kitty: Easy question. Get a PC. =)A witch! A witch! Burn her! Burn her! Well...at least give her a very hot footbath. Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mace Posted December 21, 2003 Share Posted December 21, 2003 Originally posted by Michael Emrys: A witch! A witch! Burn her! Burn her!Smooth! Very smooth. I love those winning first-move lines. I would get both a PC AND a Mac. You can never have enough computers IMHO. Mace 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow 1st Hussars Posted December 21, 2003 Author Share Posted December 21, 2003 Originally posted by Dawg Bonz: Shadow 1st Hussars Thank you for the advice. I turned off ATI Graphics Acceleration and can see no differences. Saved a few close up screen shots (in CMAK only so far), Esc out of the game to compare them. I honsetly can not see any change with ATI Graphics Acceleration on or off. Could you please describe your Mac system and the model Radeon video card you are using? Could you please describe what is downsampled on your Mac? I am not questioning your suggestion. I am wondering how what Radeon products this anti downsampling tip applies to. If others could point me in the correct direction (description of down sampled artifacts on the Mac) I would appreciate this. My Mac: Power PC 8500 (Sonnet 400MHz accelerator) 576MB ram ATI Radeon Mac Edition 32MB PCI video card. Thanks, G4 400Mhz Mac 768MB ram Radeon 7500 Mac edition The downsampling occurs mainly on tanks and on infantry unifoms. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitty Posted December 21, 2003 Share Posted December 21, 2003 Originally posted by Michael Emrys: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Kitty: Easy question. Get a PC. =)A witch! A witch! Burn her! Burn her! Well...at least give her a very hot footbath. Michael </font> 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruthless Posted December 21, 2003 Share Posted December 21, 2003 New Macintosh Ad 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow 1st Hussars Posted December 21, 2003 Author Share Posted December 21, 2003 Originally posted by Ruthless: New Macintosh Ad Don't take this off topic. :mad: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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