Crinius Posted July 30, 2005 Share Posted July 30, 2005 Are these bullet proof vests? And what kind of troops are these? http://rkka.ru/uniform/files/arm3.htm 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Bolt Posted July 30, 2005 Share Posted July 30, 2005 Definitely NOT bullet proof vests. They were known as "ЧЕРЕПАХОВЫЙ" troops or turtle troops. When these units were on grassy or muddy hills they would assault the German lines by sliding down the hill on their bellies. There was also a winterized version for snowy terrain. The white variant was much more widely distributed. A winterized mod will be posted at CMMODS soon. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shmavis Posted July 30, 2005 Share Posted July 30, 2005 Originally posted by General Colt: Definitely NOT bullet proof vests. They were known as "ЧЕРЕПАХОВЫЙ" troops or turtle troops. When these units were on grassy or muddy hills they would assault the German lines by sliding down the hill on their bellies. There was also a winterized version for snowy terrain. The white variant was much more widely distributed. A winterized mod will be posted at CMMODS soon. Ha ha! The Soviets never disappoint. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crinius Posted July 30, 2005 Author Share Posted July 30, 2005 Originally posted by General Colt: When these units were on grassy or muddy hills they would assault the German lines by sliding down the hill on their bellies. You must be joking eh?? No?? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Bolt Posted July 30, 2005 Share Posted July 30, 2005 Originally posted by Crinius: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by General Colt: When these units were on grassy or muddy hills they would assault the German lines by sliding down the hill on their bellies. You must be joking eh?? No?? </font> 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
securityguard Posted July 30, 2005 Share Posted July 30, 2005 Are these guys modeled in CM? I want to slide them down steep contours. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eichenbaum Posted July 30, 2005 Share Posted July 30, 2005 Originally posted by securityguard: Are these guys modeled in CM? I want to slide them down steep contours. No sorry, for a Teenage Mutant Turtles Ninja game I have to refer you to this site: http://www.konami.com/gs/mutantmelee/ MMMMuuaaahhhahahaha ... sorry... Serious.... Uniforms can be ordered from the net: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl Grey Posted July 30, 2005 Share Posted July 30, 2005 My guess: metal cuirass on a Soviet paaratrooper... I think they used it like Gertman stormtroopers in WW1 - I might be mistaken, though. Don´t know if they are bullet proof, but should offer quite a bit of protection for a soldier. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingfish Posted July 30, 2005 Share Posted July 30, 2005 It's the armored bib for the space lobsters of doom scenario. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike8g Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 This is what an online-translation service says: Headline: The fighter of engineering-assault parts RVGK Pic1: Guardsmen-shturmoviki of 1-st SHISBr. 1-st Belarus front, summer 1944 Pic2: Guards the senior sergeant Bogotnikov, 1-st Belarus front, summer 1944 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crinius Posted July 31, 2005 Author Share Posted July 31, 2005 BTW there are a lot of interesting uniforms on this site. http://rkka.ru/uniform/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonxa Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 We just had a long discussion on those armored pioneers over at the CMMC2 forums. I'll check if some of the information dug up can be released to the public. The short story is that those troops are assault engineers specialized in taking out heavily fortified defences. :cool: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David I Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 Nothing strikes the fear of God in a Space Lobster like the sight of a human in an armored bib clutching a claw cracker and one of those cute little forks. Unless of course it's the smell of melted butter and lemon. DavidI BTW - Great response General Colt! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 Originally posted by David I: Unless of course it's the smell of melted butter and lemon.Because it smells like victory! Remember, better red boiled alive than dead! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rum Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 Originally posted by Crinius: Are these bullet proof vests? And what kind of troops are these? http://rkka.ru/uniform/files/arm3.htm These are "ShISBr". "Shturmovie Inzhenernye-Sapernye Brigady". Closest terms are "Assault Engineers" or "Sturmpioneeren". An assault team, trained to use SMG, high explosives, flamethrowers and to perform assaults onto heavy fortification/defended buidings in cityfights. They were also trained in the melee combat. Another group of pics is here: http://fortress.vif2.ru/biblio/shisbr/ The armor plate protecting forward body, shown at the photo, had different feeling among this troops. Those who fought at the open field, strongly disliked it and tend not to use it. Those who fought in the cities, liked it and used it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crinius Posted August 1, 2005 Author Share Posted August 1, 2005 Originally posted by rum: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Crinius: Are these bullet proof vests? And what kind of troops are these? http://rkka.ru/uniform/files/arm3.htm These are "ShISBr". "Shturmovie Inzhenernye-Sapernye Brigady". Closest terms are "Assault Engineers" or "Sturmpioneeren". An assault team, trained to use SMG, high explosives, flamethrowers and to perform assaults onto heavy fortification/defended buidings in cityfights. They were also trained in the melee combat. Another group of pics is here: http://fortress.vif2.ru/biblio/shisbr/ The armor plate protecting forward body, shown at the photo, had different feeling among this troops. Those who fought at the open field, strongly disliked it and tend not to use it. Those who fought in the cities, liked it and used it. </font> 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brent Pollock Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 I wouldn't want to be wearing that outfit for hand-to-hand comabt - seems like it would slow you down too much. Originally posted by rum: [some snippage by Brent] They were also trained in the melee combat. Those who fought at the open field, strongly disliked it and tend not to use it. Those who fought in the cities, liked it and used it. [/QB] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonxa Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 Here's a more detailed account of the assault pioneers with some more pictures as well. http://www.geocities.com/rf_mikael/mainframe.html Look under articles for "Soviet Body Armor in WWII". So, why aren't they in CMBB? :confused: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juan_gigante Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 I would rather wear it in close range city fighting than while I'm running across the bare steppe. But I think it would be more effective at long range. After all, at close range, a bullet would still have enough power to punch through the armor, and it wouldn't protect against being hit in the head with a rifle butt. Whereas at long range, you're more likely to get hit with shrapnel, which I would imagine the armor could handle better. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieseltaylor Posted August 2, 2005 Share Posted August 2, 2005 I think you would expect a far higher number of ricochets in a city setting so I can see why it might be useful for that. Also it may have the ability to protect against bladed weapons, and perhaps most importantly if I wish to fling myself to the ground quickly I do not wish to check for rubble and glass. A punctured lung or broken ribs being more likely than when throwing yourself onto vegetation : ) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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