Medieval Posted November 1, 2000 Share Posted November 1, 2000 Keep in mind, fellas, the Russians are not a part of this thread. If so, I may have to move from the Panther to the T-34 M43... but, we'll see its iteration in the game I hope. And this is all LATE war stuff. The Stuart is one of the BEST early war American tanks. The French B1-Bis is the best 1940 tank in the war. German armor couldn't touch it.... too bad the French had no idea how to use it. ------------------ "And if Never Have You Should, These Things are Fun And Fun is Good." -Dr. Suess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mace Posted November 1, 2000 Share Posted November 1, 2000 Whoops, double post! This will teach me to post from work. Mace [This message has been edited by Mace (edited 11-02-2000).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medieval Posted November 1, 2000 Share Posted November 1, 2000 Keep in mind, fellas, the Russians are not a part of this thread. If so, I may have to move from the Panther to the T-34 M43... but, we'll see its iteration in the game I hope. And this is all LATE war stuff. The Stuart is one of the BEST early war American tanks. The French B1-Bis is the best 1940 tank in the war. German armor couldn't touch it.... too bad the French had no idea how to use it. :PKeep in mind, fellas, the Russians are not a part of this thread. If so, I may have to move from the Panther to the T-34 M43... but, we'll see its iteration in the game I hope. And this is all LATE war stuff. The Stuart is one of the BEST early war American tanks. The French B1-Bis is the best 1940 tank in the war. German armor couldn't touch it.... too bad the French had no idea how to use it. :PKeep in mind, fellas, the Russians are not a part of this thread. If so, I may have to move from the Panther to the T-34 M43... but, we'll see its iteration in the game I hope. And this is all LATE war stuff. The Stuart is one of the BEST early war American tanks. The French B1-Bis is the best 1940 tank in the war. German armor couldn't touch it.... too bad the French had no idea how to use it. ------------------ "And if Never Have You Should, These Things are Fun And Fun is Good." -Dr. Suess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mace Posted November 1, 2000 Share Posted November 1, 2000 Of course, I totally blame the Department of Human Services' Information System Branch for this third mispost! Mace (the synical) [This message has been edited by Mace (edited 11-02-2000).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JAZZA Posted November 2, 2000 Share Posted November 2, 2000 All round,I'd say the panther. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splinty Posted November 2, 2000 Share Posted November 2, 2000 Panther G (late),just can't beat it! And it looks cool as hell! ------------------ Nicht Schiessen!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximus Posted November 2, 2000 Share Posted November 2, 2000 Well, I think you guys are missing one of the better tank-killer tanks in the game. My vote goes to the Sherman V Firefly. Decent high-velocity gun to take out those pesky Panthers. Remember, they give Whittman a run for his money in Villers-Boccage. I used one to take out a Panther in "Cambois" that was hiding between a couple of small houses. I ran him up a road at full speed to an intersection that put me in a direct side flanking shot. As it got there it spotted the Panther, turned its turret, aimed, and smoked the Panther. The Panther's slower turret couldn't turn fast enough. LOL! So there shoots the theory that the Panther is the best tank. Hell, look at the original splash screen, it features a burning Panther. [This message has been edited by Maximus (edited 11-02-2000).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Heidman Posted November 2, 2000 Share Posted November 2, 2000 If we are limiting ourselves to reality as defined by CM, then probably the M26 Pershing. If we are talking about real life, then the Panther G. Jeff Heidman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FurballMagGP Posted November 2, 2000 Share Posted November 2, 2000 My vote goes to the Tiger I, simply because it seems to suit my style of play the best...followed by the Firefly. Much like a flight sim, the best plane is the one that you feel most comfortable in, not exactly what has the best compression rate or the most armor or firepower. Sometimes it was the ki84, most times (and the best times, eh kitty it was in the Wuerger (190a8). So I think you can debate this all week long, but what are you most comfortable using? just askin ------------------ -gp FBM's CM Resource Center Son: Mom, when I grow up I’m going to play war games for a living. Mother: Son, you can’t do both. some guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
109 Gustav Posted November 2, 2000 Share Posted November 2, 2000 I like Marder IIIs. You may think I'm crazy, but they are incredibly cheap, so you can get a lot of firepower at low cost. I usually get 3-4 of them, and have them hunt up a hill, then reverse back in the same turn. Four 75mm AT guns are enough to gaurentee a kill under most circumstances. Granted, their armor is thinner than a cafeteria pork chop, but if you can take out just one sherman for each two marders lost, you're still breaking even on points. ------------------ No one but the enemy will tell you what the enemy is going to do. No one but the enemy will ever teach you where you are weak. Only the enemy tells you where he is strong. And the rules of the game are what you can do to him and what you can stop him from doing to you. -Ender's Game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MantaRay Posted November 2, 2000 Share Posted November 2, 2000 I would say the awesome King Tiger, exceot for one thing I have noticed. I may be seeing things a lot, but whenever I buy a KT, they always seem to have their guns knocked out. Had a Greyhound do it from 600 yards the other day. Boy was I pissed. But I have to say that in terms of all factors, the Sherman 76W+ is the best value in the game. Ray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Weiss Posted November 2, 2000 Share Posted November 2, 2000 Simple answer: The one that survives. ------------------ "Gentlemen, you may be sure that of the three courses open to the enemy, he will always choose the fourth." -Field Marshal Count Helmuth von Moltke, (1848-1916) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Private Parts Posted November 2, 2000 Share Posted November 2, 2000 Ooh I love those Churchills. Ugly buggers, but the APs bounce of its hide like rubber! Just the psychological effect alone on your enemy is invaluable. If you can handle its appalling rate of speed, that is.. ------------------ "I like a man who grins when he fights." - Prime Minister Winston Churchill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarmo Posted November 2, 2000 Share Posted November 2, 2000 King Tiger. No contest. And it's not all that dead in urban scenario. It's very resistant to zooks even from side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiram Sedai Posted November 2, 2000 Share Posted November 2, 2000 I still like the Stuart. so there ------------------ Did someone compare this to the Peng thread? I've apologized for less. -Anonymous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanonier Reichmann Posted November 2, 2000 Share Posted November 2, 2000 Jeez you guys have no idea do you. The Hotchkiss H39 of course! Stylish, combines speed with a gun that can penetrate pretty much any soldiers flesh from any angle, umbelievable armour and to top it off, built by the French. What more could you ask for? Regards Jim R. ------------------ Steve to Combat Mission community: "If it's not in Combat Mission it never happened in reality"... nah that's not what I meant "If it's not in Combat Mission then the chances of it happening were miniscule"... hmmm, not quite "If it's not in Combat Mission then we didn't have the resources to code it"... rats, we've employed more people now "If it's not in Combat Mission, STIFF SH*T!"... yeh, that's what I meant to say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgdpzr Posted November 2, 2000 Share Posted November 2, 2000 My vote has to go with the Panther. Yes, the KT is a more formidable tank in terms of armor and firepower. But the mobility and cost of the Panther neutralize those advantages in my mind. Still, I must admit that I am influenced by my belief that the Panther was the finest tank of WWII. Sure, the T-34 was probably the most important tank of the war. But it had too many disadvantages to rank as the Panther's equal. Note: Whoops failed to recognize that cost should not be factor. That probably shifts the balance toward the KT. [This message has been edited by jgdpzr (edited 11-02-2000).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ari Maenpaa Posted November 2, 2000 Share Posted November 2, 2000 In CM - M26 Pershing Ari Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Germanboy Posted November 2, 2000 Share Posted November 2, 2000 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Medieval: The French B1-Bis is the best 1940 tank in the war. German armor couldn't touch it.... too bad the French had no idea how to use it. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> You'll have an uphill struggle finding takers on this statement, I am sure. One-man turret, 75mm low velocity gun with almost no traverse, I'd rather take my chances in a Panzer IV short or a Panzer III w/37mm gun thank you very much. Or even a Matilda II. In CM, it depends on the job at hand. The best alrounder is the Commonwealth tank platoon with 3 Sherman 75 and one Firefly. ------------------ Andreas <a href="http://www.geocities.com/greg_mudry/sturm.html">Der Kessel</a> Home of „Die Sturmgruppe“; Scenario Design Group for Combat Mission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted November 2, 2000 Author Share Posted November 2, 2000 Why doesn't any body agree with me?!? The Sherman Jumbo 76mm!!! What does the Panther have that it doesn't? Remember in my inital post I asked for the best all around tank w/o cost being considered!! ------------------ And if we abandon any platform, I can assure you it will not be the Macintosh. -Steve My website! A major source of Wild Bill scenarios! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chupacabra Posted November 2, 2000 Share Posted November 2, 2000 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Colin: Why doesn't any body agree with me?!? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Do you want opinions, or do you want agreement? IMO the Panther is the most balanced tank in the game. I'm not sure I can quantify why, it just feels the most balanced when I'm using it. ------------------ Soy super bien, soy super super bien, soy bien bien super bien bien bien super super. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pillar Posted November 2, 2000 Share Posted November 2, 2000 Andreas, Can you buy entire platoons of tanks in CM? I haven't seen the option, but it would be a great feature! Do you know of any online resources for tank platoons? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
109 Gustav Posted November 3, 2000 Share Posted November 3, 2000 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Pillar: Can you buy entire platoons of tanks in CM? I haven't seen the option, but it would be a great feature! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> No, you can't buy platoons. In CM, tank platoons are kind of arbitrary, because there is no commanding tank. IMHO this is a good thing, because if you had to use tanks in a platoon, like infantry squads, it would limit their mobility too much and would give the player a narrower range of options. ------------------ No one but the enemy will tell you what the enemy is going to do. No one but the enemy will ever teach you where you are weak. Only the enemy tells you where he is strong. And the rules of the game are what you can do to him and what you can stop him from doing to you. -Ender's Game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Steiner Posted November 3, 2000 Share Posted November 3, 2000 The Panther, without a doubt. Even 10 years after the war's end, it was still rated the best medium tank in the world.. Although my personal favorite will always be the Tiger I ------------------ "Are you Sgt. Steiner? No, I'm Lili Marlene" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen. Sosaboski Posted November 3, 2000 Share Posted November 3, 2000 Gentlemen, Since the Beta demo, I've had a love affair with the M18 Hellcat, and I consider it one of the best tanks (and my personal favorite) in the game-with its speed, fast turret, and 76 mm (esp w/Tungsten) make it a potent weapon that, if used correctly, can be very deadly. That being said, I think the best tank I've discovered in the game so far (cost not being an issue) is the M26 Pershing. Just gotta love the thing with the 90mm. But again, its not my favorite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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