IICptMillerII Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 I've been a busy bee recently. Someone has to fill the void! That, or I'm just talking to my own echo. Oh well. Anyways, this post is about hull down (a strangely controversial topic around these parts) and Berm Drills, an explanation as to what they are, their efficacy, and how to do them in CM. I used Cold War to make the examples in this post, so I figured I would post it here. That said, the lessons apply to every CM game. The full post can be found here: https://millerswargamingvault.blogspot.com/2022/06/visualized-in-combat-mission-berm-drills.html Here is a little vid I made to help entice: 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_MonkeyKing Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 I hate it how much work it requires to make it happen in CM and still the results are somewhat uncertain. Also unfortunately the observation position is practically impossible to do. (meaning only the optics or commanders head with binoculars is up, this is used to pre-aim the gun and only commence the rest of the drill when everything is ready) I supplement this in CM by placing infantry scout the on the ridge within hearing distance of the tank(s). Also in US footage of berm drill I rarely see swapping of the positions, in Finnish army you are only allowed to shoot once from one berm before you have to switch to another one. At least 2-3 berms per tank. Same as infantry, never peek twice in a row from the same spot. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bil Hardenberger Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 @IICptMillerII outstanding! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George MC Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 @IICptMillerII yer a class act sir 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vergeltungswaffe Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 Another excellent primer from The Cap. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Fusselpulli Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 Very well. I like to do this as well It's somehow complicated when it comes to ATGMs on vehicles, like the M150 or the M901. Because they'll not fire if waypoints are existing. A solution for it is, to time the berm drill in a way, that the vehicle reaches the fireing position and perform the shooting before the end of the turn. Then let the turn end, and retreat the vehicle at the beginning of the turn to let it reload. The disadvantage is, that you can only shoot one rocket per minute this way. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IICptMillerII Posted June 22, 2022 Author Share Posted June 22, 2022 3 hours ago, Dr.Fusselpulli said: Very well. I like to do this as well It's somehow complicated when it comes to ATGMs on vehicles, like the M150 or the M901. Because they'll not fire if waypoints are existing. A solution for it is, to time the berm drill in a way, that the vehicle reaches the fireing position and perform the shooting before the end of the turn. Then let the turn end, and retreat the vehicle at the beginning of the turn to let it reload. The disadvantage is, that you can only shoot one rocket per minute this way. Yup that is a good point. A shoot and scoot command would be great to remedy this, especially if it could be tied to the hull down command. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Captain Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 5 minutes ago, IICptMillerII said: Yup that is a good point. A shoot and scoot command would be great to remedy this, especially if it could be tied to the hull down command. YES!! PLEASE!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacillator Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 On 6/18/2022 at 6:19 AM, IICptMillerII said: https://millerswargamingvault.blogspot.com/2022/06/visualized-in-combat-mission-berm-drills.html Yes, some good stuff here! And in Bil's Battle Drill of course. Thanks guys... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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