Grigb Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 And I sens mood started to shif toward Wagnerites 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongLeftFlank Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 Just now, Grigb said: Could be both but ussualy it is the city. OK, so if so, that's another major Russian logistical hub in Wagner hands. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grigb Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 talks about Putin speech now but translation is not started yet 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grigb Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 Current RU liberals joke: What is going now? Bald [guy] from Brazzers went against Brazzers 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grigb Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 Moscow transport ministry cancels some public bus routes to south 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grigb Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 Security toughens at Tula region ask public not to use M4 route Don. Traffic form Moscow and Lipets region is temporally blocked/limited 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grigb Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 Ru Nats discussing that it is possible that RU soldiers were not issued the ammo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongLeftFlank Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 (edited) So... 3 day Special Military Operation? I mean, lightning coups de main are what the VDV paras and Spetsnaz train for. And the vast bulk of the Wagner command cadre are... from what speciality again? Edited June 24, 2023 by LongLeftFlank 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grigb Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 Claim - counter-terror protocol is started at Moscow and Moscow region 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grigb Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 RU Nat joke about that video of old farts chat The Hero of Russia in the company of several other Heroes of Russia in an attempt to find two Heroes of Russia chats with two deputies of Heroes of Russia, who are also Heroes of Russia. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FancyCat Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 Voronezh, Rostov, that’s the main logistical hubs for the SMO no? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battlefront.com Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 13 minutes ago, Huba said: Yup, situation seems to be progressing pretty fast: Putin's address was again postponed BTW, but is expected in next hour or so. Note that Voronezh is an important road and rail hub between Moscow and Rostov. For Russia to relocate forces from the Moscow area to Rostov probably means going through Voronezh. I think it can also block some rail transport going into Belgorod. Steve 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grigb Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 Ru Nats are discussing that there is no photo-vidoe confirmation of Wagnerites at Voronezh. It is unknow to whom belongs AFV at Moscow 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grigb Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 Video from Stupino (town in Moscow region) that shows a lot of of military vehicles heads toward Moscow. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grigb Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 RU claim - Wagnerites downed 2 Mi-8MTPR [EW] and Mi-35. All pilots are safe. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kraze Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Grigb said: My argument is that nothing so far indicates any kind of violent strugle, which would be expected if the RU MOD feels really threatened. When RU MOD defends its turf, many people die. On the other side, what we see is pathetic and pitiful. It's actually rather hillarious (like the chat with Evkurov and Alekseyv). Tough guy (zek) would not argue over Evkurov's allegedly irreconcilable tone (that is not true, Evkurov, like other Highlanders, speaks very quietly and nicely in RU when in an unknown setting). Everything appears to be identical to the VGCHP coup (which was not a true coup) - practically identical rhetoric to save the Motherland, same minimal violence approach, same pathetic and pitiful performance of those involved. I agree with you here. This is Russia. Without spilling a lot of blood nothing ever moves there. And note that even GKCHP coup was way more violent than this, with tanks firing on parliament. Here it looks like a show of force, flexing - "see, I have muscle - so give me stuff". After all if Prigozhin is willing to negotiate - that's not really a coup isn't it. Edited June 24, 2023 by kraze 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grigb Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 RU Nats reports Prig bots became extremely active 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grigb Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 Just now, kraze said: And note that even GKCHP coup was way more violent than this, with tanks firing on parliament. Party just started. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battlefront.com Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, kraze said: Here it looks like a show of force, flexing - "see, I have muscle - so give me stuff". For sure that is how it is now. But what happens if the request to "give me stuff" is turned down? Can you see Prig and his boys saying "well, we gave it a try. We'll go home now". I certainly don't see that happening. And even if Putin gives in and beheads the MoD, then what? All is forgiven with Prig and his boys? I don't see that happening either. Make no mistakes about it, this is a coup even if the coup plotters don't think of it as such. Steve 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grigb Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 Rought translation of RU news. Not important so just some automated translation Quote The governor of the Moscow region, Andrey Vorobyov, announced the strengthening of security measures in the region. According to him, the situation is under the control of the special services. The WHO mode has been introduced in the Moscow region. All mass events have been canceled in the Voronezh Region, Governor Alexander Gusev said. The WHO regime has been introduced in the Voronezh Region, the NAC reported. Moscow Mayor Sergei Sobyanin said that anti-terrorist measures aimed at strengthening security measures are being carried out in the capital. The Mayor of the capital stressed that additional control has been introduced on the roads. It is possible to limit the holding of mass events. The WHO regime has been introduced in the capital. A column of military equipment is moving along the M-4 "Don" highway, residents were asked not to use the road, the Voronezh Region government said in a statement. The authorities asked residents of the region to temporarily not use the M-4 "Don" highway and personal cars. The governor of the Lipetsk region Igor Artamonov announced in his Telegram channel about the strengthening of security measures in the region. He stressed that residents are advised to abandon trips in the southern direction, in particular to the Voronezh region. The governor of the Rostov region Vasily Golubev urged to refrain from traveling to the center of Rostov-on-Don. The population is advised not to leave their homes if possible. Mass events have been canceled in the regional capital. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grigb Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 Rostov Quote The situation in Rostov: there are a lot of armed fighters on the streets, PMCs employees redirects cars and passers-by at the city hall / Zvezda - RU MOD TV channel/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongLeftFlank Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 (edited) Welp, one fewer for the AFU to worry about for a bit. Get to da choppa! If this nice friendliness would spread around Mordor.... Oh, wait. Edited June 24, 2023 by LongLeftFlank 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FancyCat Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grigb Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 That Gubarev Quote Captured Yevkurov and Alekseev are the pathetic spectacle that the Ministry of Defense's leadership now portrays. There is no desire to resist. The February revolution is almost complete. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grigb Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 From Rostov rumor Quote "I was at the checkpoint in the Rostov region." Several columns of PMCs of trucks passed through during the night, [aprox] 150 [men] in each. Military vehicles has black Lugansk plates. Civilian cars can have license plates from any region. [Region codes] 05, 61, and 77 were seen" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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