John Kettler Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 (edited) While reading Poliakov's fascinating wartime book White Mammoths (KV-1s in winter ops), I found a Sovfoto pic which I think is showing a KV-1 fitted with what the Germans called Ostkette (Eastern Track) and the US called track extenders or duckbill connectors (got blistered by brother George (ex-Bradleys) for calling them grousers). Could be misinterpreting what I'm seeing, put photo research I did shows this configuration is not the standard OEM track. Obviously, this isn't a pressing matter for CMx2 now, but may be useful later as the game steps backwards in time. Regards, John Kettler Edited October 10, 2021 by John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bufo Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 Looks like the standard track to me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erwin Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 11 hours ago, John Kettler said: isn't a pressing matter for CMx2 now, but may be useful later as the game steps backwards in time You know something about Early War CM2 we don't? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vergeltungswaffe Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 Nothing odd about those tracks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 (edited) Oh FFS! PS - Thanks @Vergeltungswaffe.....Saved me the effort! Edited October 11, 2021 by Sgt.Squarehead 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vergeltungswaffe Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 Any time, Sir. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted October 13, 2021 Author Share Posted October 13, 2021 Vergeltungswaffe and Sgt.Squarehead, According to a book referenced by Eero Juholoa over on the CoC Wargame FB group, there were five types of track, apparently pretty similar, and one that was possibly experimental. The KV-1 pics I've seen didn't have the kind of track I posted about, so thanks for your help. The reference in question is a tome from Panzerwrecks and has a "I've been REALLY good this year, Santa" price point. Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 (edited) JK.....FFS, again! You were waffling about 'Duckbills' or extended end connectors.....You can't fit them to single-pin track (as fitted to all KV & IS tanks) as it has no end connectors to extend! Edited October 13, 2021 by Sgt.Squarehead 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fireship4 Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 Just so you know the track in John's photo (better version here https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/38/KV-1.JPG) may not be the same as the one in the photo Vergeltungswaffe provided (I think this is the same exact tank here https://live.staticflickr.com/3820/11303522946_59aeb0e732_c.jpg from the rear). Just inside where the sprocket (?) teeth enter the track seems to be deeply recessed in the modern photo wheras this is not clear in the first, but looks flatter. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vergeltungswaffe Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 I'm gonna go with nope, tracks are the same. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 Hard to tell, it might be a lighter track, but regardless of that it still can't have extended end connectors.....End of story. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bufo Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 56 minutes ago, Sgt.Squarehead said: ..End of story. The story ends when John tells you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacillator Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 I'm guessing John has taken down his links. Do you see what I did there ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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