MikeyD Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 CMBS has a lot of overhead weapons systems to experiment with 'hull-down'. Its been interesting playing with them. A properly hull-down Stryker with only the .50 cal showing is more formidable than one might imagine. Maneuvering hull-down with a Stryker MGS is a hoot. The vehicle's now fun to play with! Plus there's the plethora of Russian vehicles with .30 cal overhead turret. It appears from my playing hull down works best defensively. Find yourself a good position and wait for the enemy to come forward. I you're maneuvering into view of an opponent that's already sitting there he's likely to spot you first. He might not be able to hit you, but he'll spot you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mastiff Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinophile Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 interesting - this could definitely be a literal lifesaver for BTRs with their high turrets. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethaface Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 On my first try my T-72's stopped in a nice turret/hull down position to the target, however out of LOF due to the barn they were on. The bradley they were hunting did have LOF to one of them and a TOW made quick work of them. Need some more trial and error with it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank Hunter Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Is AI using hull down orders? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firehead Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 I finally got a decent test run with hull down. A platoon of Strykers and an Abrams holding off elements of a BTR infantry battalion(quick battle, meeting engagement, random AI selection). I finally got outflanked, but the Strykers and the Abrams laid waste to them firing from a berm located near a depression. Initially, I had destroyed most of their vehicles(18 at the time) taking only a single casualty. One of the enemy vics got close enough to wound the gunner in one of the Strykers. I was finally got outflanked. 1 BTR crushed 4 Strykers firing in enfilade. It took an M136 to finish him off from supporting infantry nearby. In the end I had about 9 casualties with over 50% of their force annihilated. All that being said, most of their fires were completely ineffective, taking very few casualties. When I decided to end it I had pinned all their vehicles behind some rolling hills, with enemy infantry stuck in open fields(under 155mm bombardment). Had I brough something a little more beefy like Bradleys, or maybe MGS in lieu of the Abrams it would have gone even worse. Love this feature! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted December 31, 2016 Author Share Posted December 31, 2016 Ah, about being knocked out by the Bradley TOW. I believe it fires TOW2B which is an overflight missile, when it gets overhead it fires a pair of projectiles straight down. So hull down is a moot point. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 MikeyD, TOW 2B is indeed an overflight waepon. It fires two EFP/SFF smack through the top of the target. Hull down may be moot in terms of protecting the hull from attack, but if hulldown, the AFV is harder to spot and therefore target for the DF cover negating TOW 2B. this is particularly true on a visually/thermally chaotic battlefield. Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 I expect that the same applies to the Javelin. BTW, I have noticed that the Javelin gunner takes a really long time—sometimes more than a minute—to aim his weapon. I assume this is intentional. Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted January 2, 2017 Author Share Posted January 2, 2017 Ach, I'm trying to recall. I believe I read somewhere in real life certain gizmos in Javelin have to spool-up before firing. What was the wait time? I want to say 40 seconds but don't trust that number. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mastiff Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 (edited) I was in a Quick tiny mission and the Bradley's wouldn't stay in a hull down they exposed there full vehicle. http://www.mediafire.com/file/f4y5lfkmiv5oelh/Quick_Battle_tiny_.bts Edited January 3, 2017 by Wolfseven 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethaface Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 On 12/31/2016 at 5:13 PM, MikeyD said: Ah, about being knocked out by the Bradley TOW. I believe it fires TOW2B which is an overflight missile, when it gets overhead it fires a pair of projectiles straight down. So hull down is a moot point. My problem was that my T-72s stopped with LOS but without LOF to the target (in this case bradley). So, any move order other than hulldown (or hunt) would probably have worked better. Still need some more learning with it 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antaress73 Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 1 hour ago, Lethaface said: My problem was that my T-72s stopped with LOS but without LOF to the target (in this case bradley). So, any move order other than hulldown (or hunt) would probably have worked better. Still need some more learning with it I have trouble picturing that.. seems like the interface lost you a tank 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoMac Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 14 minutes ago, antaress73 said: I have trouble picturing that.. seems like the interface lost you a tank Maybe the Sensors on top was able to get LOS (since higher then Gun sight), but when it came down to firing the Gunners Sight or Barrel was to low to actually fire ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted January 3, 2017 Author Share Posted January 3, 2017 Maneuvering to get a hull down bead on an enemy sitting in place is always a bit problematic because spotting-while-moving is lower than spotting-while-stationary, and vehicles that are moving are easier to spot. My best luck with hull down has been to find your position first then wait for them to advance towards you. Being 'clever' is more difficult in modern war with the fancy IR optics, communications nets, circling drones and top-attack weapons. Your T72 would probably have more luck stalking a T64 BM Bulat than a Bradley or Abrams 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerrTom Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Out of curiosity - has anyone tried hull-down with the Khrizantema (which, if I recall correctly is designed to fire from a pretty deep hull-down position)? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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