ZombieJesus Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 Hi all, I am a new player to Combat Mission and loving every minute.After the tutorial campaigns and a few quick matches against the computer I thought I would through myself into one of the larger and longer campaigns. At random this was Kampfgruppe Engel. So I finish the first mission with only 18 men KIA or WIA and a truck driven ,seemingly, by Rambo. I started the second mission and formulated my plan. However I look round for my tank support and find only the Pz 2s on the board. I start the mission anyway thinking on the lines of 'they must be on flank/rear guard or reassigned of the mission' as to make this mission more difficult and well it ends badly. I retry the campaign with similar losses in the first mission and still no medium tanks from 3 Troop are present.New invisible Panzers, American espionage or a game bug? Any help is greatly appreciated Kind regards PS may have rage deleted the save but can generate another one if needed 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seedorf81 Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 (edited) I started this campaign just this week and on the first mission I missed the 75mm tank gun behind the sdkfz251. The crew and ammo bearers were there, but the gun wasn't.Once I started playing it suddenly appeared as it should.Second mission about to start and indeed, no pzII's, but also no Panther and/or PzkwIV's. I didn't have time tot start the game, because I had to go, but maybe they appear after hitting the end-of-turn button after set-up?Again I do not have the time to play right now, but I wanted to let you know that I had the same issue.So the question is: did you start playing the (2nd)scenario for one or more turns? If not, that could be the solution. Edited June 13, 2015 by Seedorf81 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holien Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 Can't do linkies on this nexus, but sounds like bug with campaigns created in earlier version of the engine not having same units in latest game engine. Some previous threads explain the issue. Not yet resolved as far as I know. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agusto Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 Yeah, it sounds like a bug. I played Kampfgruppe Engel (which is german and translates to "Combat Team Angel", btw) a year ago and remember that there was a significant tank force present in each mission. What is mission 2 again? Could you describe it to me, ZombieJesus? Maybe i can tell you then if your forces are different from the ones i had when i played KG Engel. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seedorf81 Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 Just tried 2nd scenario, multiple turns, no tanks.Augusto:mission two: your troops assembled at church. Straight road leads into town that has very long, also straight, road running through it, perpendicular to first road. Telling info: two enemy M8's far apart.You can blow big part of town (enjoyingly)to smithereens with rocket strike.There should be 2 PZII's, 1 Panther and 2 PzkwVI unless you lost them in first scenario, I believe, and two SPW250/9 (75mmgun). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agusto Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 Just tried 2nd scenario, multiple turns, no tanks. Augusto: mission two: your troops assembled at church. Straight road leads into town that has very long, also straight, road running through it, perpendicular to first road. Telling info: two enemy M8's far apart. You can blow big part of town (enjoyingly)to smithereens with rocket strike. There should be 2 PZII's, 1 Panther and 2 PzkwVI unless you lost them in first scenario, I believe, and two SPW250/9 (75mmgun). Yeah 5 tanks seems about right IIIRC. Just tried 2nd scenario, multiple turns, no tanks. Seems to be a bug. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZombieJesus Posted June 14, 2015 Author Share Posted June 14, 2015 Tanks for all your replies it seems to be an unresolved bug as you have all said. Many thanks PS sorry for the pun I cant resist a bad pun 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agusto Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 If KG Engles is a stock campaign, we should report the bug to one of the beta testers, because If it' s a stock campaign it' s Battlefronts job to fix it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AttorneyAtWar Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 (edited) This has been reported in at least 3 other threads over the past year or so. Honestly BFC needs to have a disclaimer on the purchase page for these expansions to tell people they will not be able to play the campaigns if they have 3.0, its bordering on false advertising. Edited June 14, 2015 by Raptorx7 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seedorf81 Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 If KG Engles is a stock campaign, we should report the bug to one of the beta testers, because If it' s a stock campaign it' s Battlefronts job to fix it.Hear, hear!There ain't to many nice stock campaigns (I still believe the MG campaigns are unpleasantly tough) and now this one is broken!That ain't good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexUK Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 It would be good to get bfc's view on this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agusto Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 I still believe the MG campaigns are unpleasantly tough Really? I will have to give them a try then, i like it if it' s painfully difficult. I have spent way too much time on stomping Syrians into the ground in CMSF lately, i feel like i need an enemy that actually at least tries to resist. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexUK Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 Be prepared - I've only tried the german campaign, and one of the scenarios is a pig! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c3k Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 One of the beta testers is aware of this. And, real life allowing, is trying to look into it. If you have a save of a battle ending with some units which should show up in the NEXT battle, but don't, please let me know. Use this thread. We'll set up PM as needed to swap files. I'd also like a link to the other threads which discussed this. I remember it coming up, but couldn't find it. (My personal attempt at retrying the campaign did not get missing vehicles.) So, if this is broken, this thread is officially the non-official place to post your comments. Err, "constructive" comments... Saves, anecdotes, what PRECISELY you are missing from which battle, etc. Details matter. Thanks, Ken 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holien Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 When I get on a proper computer later today I will re gather the links and bump them and re tie them together. I did do some specific testing with the earlier engine version for one of the campaigns and it clearly showed the issue. Again should be able to dig it all out later. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kch001 Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 I would also love to see the old campaigns made compatible again. Apparently you can play them with 2.0 engine but since I bought the entire bundle then I have no clue on have to "downgrade" the game to 2.0 when needed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c3k Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 When I get on a proper computer later today I will re gather the links and bump them and re tie them together. I did do some specific testing with the earlier engine version for one of the campaigns and it clearly showed the issue. Again should be able to dig it all out later. Thanks. That'd be a big help. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c3k Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 I would also love to see the old campaigns made compatible again. Apparently you can play them with 2.0 engine but since I bought the entire bundle then I have no clue on have to "downgrade" the game to 2.0 when needed. I have no idea how to downgrade. I -do- know that BFC has been responsive to fixing known bugs, especially those which affect the game like this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kch001 Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Since I can see that you have been around a while on the forum, how would you proceed with this? Will you raise it as a bug in the tech assistance part of the forum? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holien Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Ok here we go... Some previous threads in one easy to follow thread... http://community.battlefront.com/topic/119304-possible-bugs-for-older-campaigns-created-with-earlier-engines/?hl=holien#entry1603178 I passed a test file to Ian and I can re-send e-mails if you PM your e-mail address? In the meantime I will update the Thread above with what i found.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Canadian Cat Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Yeah, and I was bad and got distracted and then forgot about it. Sorry. Ken are you OK with continuing on with this - you are most likely going to be reliable. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holien Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 NP IanL you are a volunteer and not being paid so RL gets in the way... Or more interesting things than trying to nail bugs.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisND Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 I'm looking into it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seedorf81 Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 I'm sorry, I was frustrated, couldn't possibly win without tank support, and deleted my Kampfgruppe Engel saves with the missing Pak and Tanks. Still, everything else looked all right in those first two scenario's. The SPW250/9 and the Kubels and the Opel Blitz's were there, as they should, and all the German infantry was there, too. Hopefully there will be an swift and easy fix for the disappearing stuff.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JyriErik Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 (edited) One of the beta testers is aware of this. And, real life allowing, is trying to look into it. If you have a save of a battle ending with some units which should show up in the NEXT battle, but don't, please let me know. Use this thread. We'll set up PM as needed to swap files. I'd also like a link to the other threads which discussed this. I remember it coming up, but couldn't find it. (My personal attempt at retrying the campaign did not get missing vehicles.) So, if this is broken, this thread is officially the non-official place to post your comments. Err, "constructive" comments... Saves, anecdotes, what PRECISELY you are missing from which battle, etc. Details matter. Thanks, Ken I've go an Engel save game. Will have to reload to make sure, but IIRC all of the German armour survived the first battle, but only Pz II's showed up the next battle. (The ATG bug also hit, but the solution of "save & reload" brought it back, so that wasn't as bad. Jyri Edited June 16, 2015 by JyriErik 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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